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Fri, 16 Apr 2021 15:58:45 +0200
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Lars Wirzenius
liw@toot.liw.fi
How should success be measured for the free software movement?
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Fri, 16 Apr 2021 16:01:32 +0200
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JordiGH
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When most people feel less of a need to use non-free software.
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Fri, 16 Apr 2021 18:33:44 +0200
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Ben Zanin
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the number of people empowered by it, the ways in which they are empowered, the degree to which they are able to bring that empowerment to bear on solving problems for others, the plasticity with which the body of free software can be adapted to address new use cases encountered by its users, the breadth of non-members who learn accurate things about it, the acceptance by non-members of the tools and people who use them, and the number of new joiners who then stay?
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Fri, 16 Apr 2021 18:50:05 +0200
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Hans van Zijst
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If people can use software without being held hostage, if software is primarily good for humanity and not for a handful of CEOs.
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Sat, 17 Apr 2021 00:16:56 +0200
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Göktuğ, Toot Linguist
https://toot.cat/@cadadr
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If people are afraid to participate in bug reports and/or mailing list, that's a failed FOSS project, even if a successful source-available one.
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Sat, 17 Apr 2021 00:17:09 +0200
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Doc Edward Morbius ⭕
dredmorbius@toot.cat
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Answering by way of further questions Just Because:
Inversion: How should
failure
be measured for the Free Software movement?
Alternative: How should success be measured by any alternative movement?
Intent: What are/were the stated goals of the Free Software movement?
That last would probably point to re-reading the
#GNUManifesto
.
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Sat, 17 Apr 2021 05:48:24 +0200
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Icarus Anne Riley
icarus@social.isurf.ca
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So, people are complex and shitty people do good things, and good people do shitty things, and acts accomplished can be viewed independently of the person who achieved them, even as we might consider said person's motivation while discussing the person, separate from the act accomplished?
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Sat, 17 Apr 2021 07:32:29 +0200
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Daniel
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When you could ask a random group of high schoolers what the 4 essential freedoms of free software are and they could get them right. That would insure that the seed had at least been planted. Success for free software to me is a philosophical/awareness goal, not a technical one. Technical concerns are becoming less and less visible to more and more people and will probably continue to trend that way. Good philosophies tend to stick around since they make it through the furnace of history.
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Sat, 17 Apr 2021 08:38:32 +0200
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Bob Mottram
https://epicyon.freedombone.net/@bob
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I suppose the measure of success would be to what extent is it possible to do ordinary things without using proprietary software. Such as writing an email, shopping, driving, paying bills/taxes, socializing.
Also for cases where there is free software available, how straightforward it is to use. Sometimes there may be free software available but it may be impractically time consuming to set up or manage, or it might lack accessibility features.
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Sat, 17 Apr 2021 17:31:37 +0200
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Mike Gerwitz
https://mastodon.mikegerwitz.com/@mikegerwitz
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There is no single measure, and I'd distinguish between "success" (end) and "successful" (ongoing). The goal posts are always moving.
What good are freedoms that most cannot enjoy? Many of us, including myself, are able to perform their day-to-day computing using entirely free software, but it's a position of privilege on many levels: technical, financial, societal, and much more. It's almost like freedom for the fringe. And it's a terrible feedback loop, as we cannot relate to others.
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Sat, 17 Apr 2021 20:21:23 +0200
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davidak
davidak@chaos.social
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good question!
I think the free software movement is successful when for every task a free software is the first choice.
Existing examples are Open Broadcaster Software and
@krita
.
Proprietary software is allowed to exist (i'm liberal here), but no one should have to use it!
The most needed improvements are in funding, quality and UX. I focus on that.
Probably also management and community building. I'm not an expert with social things.
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