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Sat, 25 Oct 2025 07:39:10 +0200

Frank Karlitschek

Karlitschek@mastodon.social

This is unbelievable. So Europe is not even allowed to discuss how to be more independent from Big Tech? #Nextcloud

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Sat, 25 Oct 2025 07:59:15 +0200

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Sat, 25 Oct 2025 07:59:16 +0200

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Sat, 25 Oct 2025 08:06:57 +0200

Hans van Zijst

hans@social.woefdram.nl

@Frank Karlitschek We European fools, we should let the US run the whole show. They've shown they are benevolent and trustworthy.

🤮

I have an explanation for them: go f*ck yourselves and your parasitic laws, we'll take care of ourselves.

Sat, 25 Oct 2025 08:09:29 +0200

bmaxv

bmaxv@noc.social

@Karlitschek

Not surprising.

I would be shocked if all the money MS and Apple have invested into Trump wasn't even worth a meager meeting of diplomats on their behalf.

Also, what you should be asking yourself is why and how this time, stuff was leaked, and what they were also doing previously and nobody leaked it.

Sat, 25 Oct 2025 08:14:11 +0200

Ingo Wichmann

ingo_wichmann@digitalcourage.social

@Karlitschek Wir von der @OSBA werden mit eigenen Inhalten dabei sein!

Und wir haben gute Argumente. Denn wir fordern nicht "buy European". Wir fordern "public money, public code".

Wir wollen Wettbewerb, und keine Monopole.

Sat, 25 Oct 2025 08:30:52 +0200

Dipper

LaD_Hallo@mastodon.social

@Karlitschek The essence of Trumpism is bullying.

Sat, 25 Oct 2025 08:40:22 +0200

Johnno

DjityDjity@mastodon.social

@Karlitschek Globalisation blurred the lines of international sovereignty but it has always been an assumed part of international relations. Given the direction Trump is taking I think the rest of the world would be well advised to dump the US Dollar as the currency standard - the Euro seems far more secure and stable - and then claw back sovereignty that the global tech giants have taken away from us all.

Sat, 25 Oct 2025 08:42:01 +0200

Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange:

jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

@Karlitschek

"The US embassies in Berlin and Paris are taking a keen interest in the summit on digital sovereignty" scheduled on Nov. 18, said a German official, granted anonymity to speak freely, confirming the meetings, which are about "seeking explanations."

Sat, 25 Oct 2025 08:42:57 +0200

Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange:

jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

@Karlitschek

Notably the summit will not be reserved for Europeans alone - attendees of Thursday's event were told that Google and Microsoft will be present through their French tie-ups S3NS and Bleu.

The two French companies were created to sell cloud services of the tech giants in France with a "sovereign" stamp, to guarantee the protection of European data from U.S. intelligence.

Sat, 25 Oct 2025 08:46:35 +0200

Lars ♾️🌱

lxrs@mastodon.online

@Karlitschek The last sentence has been confirmed to be wrong by the guy of Microsoft France. They will try to lobby and interfere as always

Sat, 25 Oct 2025 08:48:41 +0200

GemlaMange

GemlaMange@social.vivaldi.net

@Karlitschek Now we European must come together and start working hard on a European euos.
If we all could use Google as little as possible not more than we have to it would be great.
I only have the Google Apps ( inactive ) just because i' m forced to on my Android phone.

Sat, 25 Oct 2025 09:00:31 +0200

Nicole Parsons

Npars01@mstdn.social

@Karlitschek

Project 2025 is funded by the fossil fuel industry's Heritage Foundation.

https://yorkshirebylines.co.uk/politics/right-wing-push-to-dismantle-the-eu-heritage-foundations-private-workshop/

https://www.desmog.com/2024/08/14/project-2025-billionaire-donor-heritage-foundation-donald-trump-jd-vance-charles-koch-peter-coors/

The Heritage Foundation openly discusses dismantling the EU, and the EU isn't allowed to act in self-defense?

America's MAGA billionaires are funded by the fossil fuel industry, an industry that sees its captive consumer markets shrinking as people move to solar & wind.

The fossil fuel industry funds malign influence campaigns to keep frying the planet.

Sat, 25 Oct 2025 09:15:36 +0200

aproposnix

aproposnix@mastodon.social

@Karlitschek the American government is not an Ally to Europe. Full stop.

Sat, 25 Oct 2025 09:20:48 +0200

Alexandro Lacadena 📷

petaqui@masto.es

@Karlitschek whaaaaaaaat??? I can't believe it

Sat, 25 Oct 2025 09:22:47 +0200

Sören

7eruS@dresden.network

@Karlitschek can you post a link to the article? Cant find it on politico. I'd like to share the original.

Sat, 25 Oct 2025 09:25:17 +0200 last edited: Sat, 25 Oct 2025 09:34:00 +0200

Ronan

ronanmcd@mastodon.green

@Karlitschek this is not unusual for USA. Companies have leveraged the US government to strongarm countries for their domestic policies since the start. I didn't know this until recently, but there's so much of it in the book I'm reading America, América by Greg Grandin, a US historian

Sat, 25 Oct 2025 09:35:23 +0200

Deven Phillips

infosec812@foojay.social

@Karlitschek
It's all about money and power. Sovereign EU IT takes both away from the Americans and they don't like it. Keep doing it!

Sat, 25 Oct 2025 09:39:30 +0200

Elric

elricofmelnibone@mastodon.social

@Karlitschek If the US fears negative effects on its digital industry, maybe they should consider not pandering to fascist dipshits?

Sat, 25 Oct 2025 09:44:04 +0200

Dante Vortex 💾

Dantevortex@cyberplace.social

@Karlitschek I was wondering when the US would catch up with the EU talking about a technological "Brexit" from the US.

And of course they don't want this to happen since it'll cost the US trillions per year if the EU takes matters in their own hands.

At least the US now recognized the EU as a serious entity they need to start listening to. Could be worse.

Sat, 25 Oct 2025 09:46:43 +0200

Morten Juhl-Johansen

mjj@mstdn.dk

@Karlitschek That would seem to confirm the necessity.

Sat, 25 Oct 2025 09:50:19 +0200

grayrattus

grayrattus@mastodon.social

@Karlitschek thats attack on EU and I think our governments should step up.

Sat, 25 Oct 2025 10:28:59 +0200

Toni Aittoniemi

gimulnautti@mastodon.green

@Karlitschek USA only talks ”freedom” when their companies are the ones getting the deals. They turn into imperialists immediately when their companies are about to lose position. Next step from ”asking questions” has historically been weapons.

Sat, 25 Oct 2025 10:32:30 +0200

xs4me2

xs4me2@mastodon.social

@Karlitschek

I suggest Europe just takes notice of their evil intent and carry on. Of course, the USA could take back the tariffs they defined.

Sat, 25 Oct 2025 10:43:08 +0200

Rastal

Rastal@mastodon.social

@Karlitschek Correct. It's the Wolfawitz doctrine. The US can have no peer or near peer competitors.

Sat, 25 Oct 2025 10:45:14 +0200 last edited: Sat, 25 Oct 2025 10:55:46 +0200

Rapha3l

rapha3l@social.g2od.ch

@Karlitschek @OSBA @ingo_wichmann @forgejo @Codeberg

Please host the source code federated...

Gerne den Source Code federiert hosten...

#opensource #publicmoneypubliccode #federation

Sat, 25 Oct 2025 10:53:10 +0200

tanavit

tanavit@toot.aquilenet.fr

@Karlitschek

Europe's people do not care about digital sovereignty.

If USA suspends transatlantic DNS, Europe will freeze.

Sat, 25 Oct 2025 10:59:53 +0200

BlumenKid

RotHorseKid@mastodon.social

@Karlitschek What do you expect from a fascist corpocracy?

Sat, 25 Oct 2025 11:02:27 +0200

everton137

everton137@social.vivaldi.net

@altbot @Karlitschek @quincy Y

Sat, 25 Oct 2025 11:05:20 +0200

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Sat, 25 Oct 2025 11:12:11 +0200

F4GRX SÃ©bastien

f4grx@chaos.social

@Karlitschek US GAFAMs can go fuck themselves.

Sat, 25 Oct 2025 11:14:43 +0200

a kilo of saucepans (rakslice)

rakslice@mastodon.social

@Karlitschek If US officials really feared effects from countries telling their businesses how to run, they would start by not fucking doing it themselves. Just ignore the hypocrites. https://www.cnn.com/2025/10/23/tech/google-diversity-programs-women-techmakers

Sat, 25 Oct 2025 11:18:35 +0200

Kerplunk

Kerplunk@mastodon.scot

@Karlitschek

This is unbelievable. So Europe is not even allowed to discuss how to be more independent from Big Tech?

Shitbrained yanks thinking they rule the world, EU and UK must very clearly tell USA under trump to mind their own fscking business.

EUROPE MUST CUT ITSELF FREE....

Sat, 25 Oct 2025 11:23:53 +0200

Ray McCarthy

raymaccarthy@mastodon.ie

@Karlitschek
American Government is a bully, in thrall to big USA corps.

The voters are mostly "consumers". The Political Donations by Corporates is ant-democratic. One person – one vote

Sat, 25 Oct 2025 11:28:57 +0200

Whimsical Wyvern

korhal@mastodon.social

@Karlitschek Perhaps it just means we are moving in the right direction.

Sat, 25 Oct 2025 11:40:31 +0200 last edited: Sat, 25 Oct 2025 12:34:34 +0200

Dirk

dbdk@mastodon.social

@Karlitschek US authorities seeking explanation is only showing that there is some competetive software out now. Software neither from Big Tech nor from the tax payer but from KMU (keep this acronym in mind - in Germany it stands for small and middle sized companies). That feels good. Really good👍Very pleased to see this 🤩.

Sat, 25 Oct 2025 11:44:29 +0200

카를로스

iscarlosmolero@mastodon.social

@Karlitschek Ah, yes, classic US behavior.

Sat, 25 Oct 2025 11:50:31 +0200

Werawelt

werawelt@social.tchncs.de

@Karlitschek

Gibt es eine URL? Dann ich es übersetzen. Oder ALt-Text im Bild, dann kann ich es auch übersetzen.
Danke 🙂

Sat, 25 Oct 2025 11:54:35 +0200

Saupreiss #Präparat500 🗽

Saupreiss@pfalz.social

@Karlitschek

Of course that’s a threat on the business model and so of course they try to prevent it.

What would you expect? Putin welcoming transitioning away from fossil fuels? Very similar thing.

Sat, 25 Oct 2025 12:02:07 +0200

Fluchtkapsel

fluchtkapsel@nerdculture.de

@Karlitschek That's good news. The US government seems to take this seriously which implies that they feel vulnerable in this regard.

Sat, 25 Oct 2025 12:09:57 +0200

Frank Karlitschek

Karlitschek@mastodon.social

@fluchtkapsel I agree

Sat, 25 Oct 2025 12:20:45 +0200

fedithom

fedithom@social.saarland

@Karlitschek

Sounds like #Europe is doing something right if #Trump and his #GAFAM lickspittles are worried. Keep going!

Also, hopefully nobody falls for S3NS or Bleu. There's no sovereignity to be had with those companies.

Sat, 25 Oct 2025 12:34:41 +0200

Dave 🐶

Cyberoutsider@infosec.exchange

@Karlitschek Makes sense. This is what the USA originally did with the military hardware market, of course they want to replicate it with digital tech.

Although, the other problem is that you then end up with other countries essentially dependent on the USA and then you get a whacko President that doesn't understand how it got to this and just throws hissy fits instead.

Sat, 25 Oct 2025 12:45:10 +0200

EVHaste

Haste@mastodon.social

@Karlitschek good, if they’re scared it’s the right track

Sat, 25 Oct 2025 12:48:22 +0200

Frank Karlitschek

Karlitschek@mastodon.social

First they ignore you, then they fight you, then …

Sat, 25 Oct 2025 13:11:47 +0200

Mr. Lance E Sloan (IRL) 👤

sloanlance@mastodon.social

@Karlitschek
What is written in the image?

Sat, 25 Oct 2025 13:29:03 +0200

aburtch

aburtch@triangletoot.party

@Karlitschek They best response would be for Europe to ignore the hell out of the US.

Sat, 25 Oct 2025 13:41:55 +0200

Baldur J.

goconnect@mastodon.social

@Karlitschek I developed which is going to be an alternative to Discord, and all the sites where I can post it, I am banned.

I don't know what is this but it looks like the internet itself is against me to grow. If someone want to take a look here the site. https://goconnect.dev/

Sat, 25 Oct 2025 13:46:41 +0200

$o/1MS\o ⌨️🐧 | #WeAreNatenom$

o/1MS\o ⌨️🐧 | #WeAreNatenom

db_geek@norden.social

@Karlitschek It's all about "Land of the Free, Home of the Brave".
But not for others.
/s

https://www.derstandard.de/story/2000117915890/land-of-the-free-aber-nicht-fuer-alle

Sat, 25 Oct 2025 13:48:50 +0200 last edited: Sat, 25 Oct 2025 17:16:57 +0200

Pete

philpetree@mastodon.social

@Karlitschek Now you know why Big Tech is donating soooo much money to the Orange Turd.

Sat, 25 Oct 2025 13:51:35 +0200

De-extincted Fish Swashbuckler

Reshirams_Rad_Slam@mastodo.neoliber.al

@Karlitschek This isn't a surprise since they did the same thing with Indonesia. Prolly even worse since they supposedly got tariffed because they're using their own fintech instead of America's.

Sat, 25 Oct 2025 14:12:57 +0200

duncan

duncan_lithgow@mastodon.social

@Karlitschek
Fuck them, let's build the infrastructure we want and need.

No need to overstate and claim we're 'not allowed' by the US to have this discussion. That's simply incorrect. It's also inflammatory rhetoric and distracts from an important narrative of #selfdetermination & #digitalsovereignty by shifting the focus back to #bigtech.

Shout-out to @sindum for moving a scout group off #microsoft and over to #nextcloud

Sat, 25 Oct 2025 14:13:01 +0200

microbloggertom

microbloggertom@mastodon.social

@Karlitschek ... you win?

Sat, 25 Oct 2025 14:24:40 +0200

Phil Crow

AlsoCrowie@mastodon.social

I agree with this sentiment. It’s really nothing to report, the current US policy pretending that everyone thinks America should be first, that American dominance should be the status quo. In a rational world, countries are free to have their own industrial security and autonomy, not the patronising dependent servant model the US is pretending to provide us atm

https://mastodon.social/@LaD_Hallo/115433396770364485

Sat, 25 Oct 2025 14:34:41 +0200

MidgePhoto

Photo55@mastodon.social

@Karlitschek
Ambassador called in ministers.
Called on is more conventional.
Ministers calling the ambassador of a power onto their office carpet, +/- chair; coffee; etc, is definitely an occasional thing.

Sat, 25 Oct 2025 14:46:10 +0200

Isaka

isaka@mastodon.social

@Karlitschek I wonder if things were different with prior administrations. I don’t have any evidence but I would bet the playbook has been the same maybe just behind the scenes with some tact on what they all let the public know.

Sat, 25 Oct 2025 15:11:41 +0200

Mx Autumn :blobcatpumpkin:

carbontwelve@notacult.social

@Karlitschek how long until the US government deems a threat to US big techs margins a threat to US national interests? </rhetorical-question>

Sat, 25 Oct 2025 15:16:04 +0200

Bandersnatch

Bandersnatch@mastodon.social

@Karlitschek

Because #Microsoft is spying for the #pedo #Trump regime.

Sat, 25 Oct 2025 15:19:00 +0200

chuckadeus kummerer

xkummerer@chaos.social

@Karlitschek oh wow. so capitalism is just state capitalism wo dental

Sat, 25 Oct 2025 16:11:06 +0200

Ω 🌍 Gus Posey

Gustodon@mas.to

@Karlitschek Luckily both France and Germany have some great ways to tell people what they can go do with themselves.

Sat, 25 Oct 2025 16:43:23 +0200

Bogdan Buduroiu

bruvduroiu@mastodon.social

@Karlitschek not beating the “vassal” allegations

Sat, 25 Oct 2025 17:04:10 +0200

ocdtrekkie

ocdtrekkie@mastodon.social

@Karlitschek I've always found it amazing how the industry accepts obviously insane directions as "the right way" because everyone else is doing it. It's clear a big part of that is suppressing people discussing the reasonable but less profitable ways.

Sat, 25 Oct 2025 17:10:36 +0200

Käsekuchen

Kaesekuchen@social.anoxinon.de

@Karlitschek

So, now Linux on my wife's old Win10 PC. I wonder when I get an angry letter...

Sat, 25 Oct 2025 17:28:29 +0200

Clement Cavadore

acontios@masto.hivane.net

@Karlitschek what is unbelievable is the fact that they allow themselves to "ask for explanation".

They act like dumbasses with us, and do not understand that we want to get rid of them ?!?

Sat, 25 Oct 2025 19:02:47 +0200

book_dragon

JeanieBurrell@mstdn.social

@i47i Boosting into the #DigitalSovereignty community for reach.

#AltText

Sat, 25 Oct 2025 19:36:38 +0200

ph00lt0

ph00lt0@mastodon.social

@Karlitschek this should tell us how keen they are on keeping us locked in their spy capabilities.

Sat, 25 Oct 2025 20:19:30 +0200

Hans van Zijst

hans@social.woefdram.nl

@GemlaMange Well, a EU-OS is already there, more or less: Linux and *BSD.

"We don't need no stinkin' Windoze!" (Or iOS, or any other closed source commercial black box)

Sat, 25 Oct 2025 23:59:49 +0200

lin11c

lin11c@toad.social

@Karlitschek
Tell the USA Techbros to fuck off. Get them out of your country completely. That's my advice because they are seriously escalating their surveillance capacity. There is ZERO concern for an individuals privacy. Or don't use any of their products. Hard to give up Instagram but I probably will soon. ☠️

Sun, 26 Oct 2025 00:21:12 +0200

Anomalous Human

JustToOdd@nerdculture.de

@jwildeboer @Karlitschek Thank you.

Sun, 26 Oct 2025 03:10:46 +0100

Ian Wagner

ianthetechie@fosstodon.org

@Karlitschek @CyReVolt What do you mean? It’s totally believable! States have no friends, no morals, and no interest in the success of their temporary allies. They only seek to advance their own “interests.” Which is basically self preservation and whatever benefits those currently in power.

Sun, 26 Oct 2025 13:01:55 +0100

Jan Korbel 🐧

jackc@kompost.cz

@Karlitschek Fear 👍️

Sun, 26 Oct 2025 16:01:44 +0100

Aral Balkan

aral@mastodon.ar.al

@Karlitschek … they bomb you. We’re talking about the US, right?

Mon, 27 Oct 2025 10:47:09 +0100

Gina

Gina@fosstodon.org

@Karlitschek lol I'm going to be there too, looking forward to an email from the US embassy 😂

Mon, 27 Oct 2025 12:39:48 +0100

Hans van Zijst

hans@social.woefdram.nl

@Gina You tell 'em! 😉

Mon, 27 Oct 2025 19:02:22 +0100

Marco Bresciani

AAMfP@fosstodon.org

@Karlitschek
🤦🏻‍♂️

Wed, 29 Oct 2025 12:51:58 +0100

Splinux :mastodon:

splinux@mastodon.uno

@Karlitschek why "not allowed"? They want to stay informed. It's not like Nord Stream where they decided Germany's foreign policy bu reminding Germany who wrote its constitution. When Huawei was kicked from UK, China protested and embassy were engaged, media directed etc.

Let em all bitch around. Shit gonna happen anyway.

Fri, 31 Oct 2025 23:23:18 +0100

Reiner Jung

prefec2@norden.social

@Karlitschek if they are so keen on keeping us on their products, it is even more important to ditch their stuff. It sounds like they are losing a spy and control vector.

Fri, 31 Oct 2025 23:32:19 +0100

Oyu F'ka

Oyu_Fka@mastodon.social

@Karlitschek Everyone seems pretty optimistic about European digital sovereignty, and so we should 🤞.

However, trump and his administration are bullies, and I fear France and Germany will fold under the pressure they will apply - all the us big tech companies are on board with trump, and he wont let them down ☹️.

Sun, 02 Nov 2025 16:44:00 +0100

Vector Hugo

gfkdsgn@burma.social

#nextcloud is a great service, the best #FOSS cloud I'm aware of, and perhaps more important than #wordpress. So, I'd like to say TY @Karlitschek since it's working fantastic for our team.

But, I need to mention that this quote became kinda toxic after orange POTUS used it.