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Fri, 12 Aug 2022 15:18:52 +0200
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stux⚡
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stux@mstdn.social
https://media.mstdn.social/media_attachments/files/108/805/419/712/325/785/original/a471a5c824a2daad.mp4
We really need better rules for this
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Thu, 11 Aug 2022 19:56:22 +0200
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Remco.py
remcoboerma@fosstodon.org
@stux
we need to move from owning stuff to leasing stuff. When Apple stays the owner they have a hell of an incentive to keep you paying for the same device for years.
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Thu, 11 Aug 2022 20:09:07 +0200
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tommy
https://mastodon.oi7.de/@tommy
@remcoboerma
what kind of restrictions what you are allowed to do on/with your device the companies will come up with once you just lease the device?
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Fri, 12 Aug 2022 15:22:58 +0200
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Hans van Zijst
hans@social.woefdram.nl
Yup, we do.
Good thing that companies like
Fairphone
exist, let's hope this is going to be trending.
#
right2repair
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Fri, 12 Aug 2022 15:40:58 +0200
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nieebel
aligyie@digitalcourage.social
@tommy
@remcoboerma
Just to mention: companies leasing the device do not have to be same company building the device!
I'm looking forward to a Louis Rossmann laptop flatrate. Lois is making the choice of a long living and repairing device and since he is a big customer, he is in direct contact with multiple device makers to move them into this direction.
BUT law has to prevent, that device making companies prevent such renting companies! (which of course do not want or at least under their control)
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Fri, 12 Aug 2022 19:06:52 +0200
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Remco.py
remcoboerma@fosstodon.org
@aligyie
@tommy
that's great to hear, but that doesn't change the producers incentive to build a lasting product. They will try to persuade customers with newer models with more Shiney™ because the money comes when someone (intermediate or not) buys it from them. Which device doesn't have a killswitch or deteriorates from digital rot, while it could easily last a decade more. If producers would still gain revenue they would have that incentive.
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Fri, 12 Aug 2022 19:07:21 +0200
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Remco.py
remcoboerma@fosstodon.org
@aligyie
@tommy
btw I'm really interested in a link to those laptops and such, please do share!
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Fri, 12 Aug 2022 20:00:58 +0200
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nieebel
aligyie@digitalcourage.social
@remcoboerma
@tommy
I would be interested as well :D
If I stumble upon something, then I will add it here:
https://pad.hacc.space/green-hardware-ranking?view
So give it a bookmark and keep an eye on it ;)
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Sat, 13 Aug 2022 16:04:22 +0200
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Remco.py
remcoboerma@fosstodon.org
@aligyie
now this would be worth a dedicated account/atom feed!
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