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Thu, 28 Apr 2022 13:36:03 +0200
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FediFollows has moved!
FediFollows@mastodon.online
Oh wow, the European Union 🇪🇺 now has its own official Mastodon instance!
https://social.network.europa.eu/explore
You can follow lots of important EU officials on here including the
@EU_Commission
#EU
#EuropeanUnion
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Thu, 28 Apr 2022 13:52:22 +0200
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Hans van Zijst
hans@social.woefdram.nl
@
kantraa :blobcatoutage: :xmpp:
Why would you do that?
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Thu, 28 Apr 2022 14:19:21 +0200
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Zekovski
Zekovski@pouet.chapril.org
@f_alex93
https://edps.europa.eu/_en
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Thu, 28 Apr 2022 14:19:36 +0200
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@f_alex93
@EU_Commission
Yes, it's hosted on the europa.eu domain which is for official EU sites.
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Thu, 28 Apr 2022 14:22:33 +0200
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@Zekovski
@f_alex93
Thanks for the link.
OMG, they've even got an official EU PeerTube instance!
https://tube.network.europa.eu
Hey
@peertube
and
@Framasoft
, did you see this??
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Thu, 28 Apr 2022 14:23:41 +0200
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Zekovski
Zekovski@pouet.chapril.org
@FediFollows
@f_alex93
@peertube
@Framasoft
Yes, it was in their announcement I just boosted.
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Thu, 28 Apr 2022 14:42:50 +0200
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Goofy :mastodon:
https://mastodon.uno/@goofy
@FediFollows
@EU_Commission
It’s it just a Twitter mirror?
Even the EU commission declares it.
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Thu, 28 Apr 2022 14:51:03 +0200
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@goofy
@EU_Commission
Some of the accounts are just mirrors (for now), some of them have boosts so they must have a human input there.
But the big thing is they have set up their own instances of Mastodon and PeerTube. This is a big thing, it shows that a massive official body not only knows about the Fediverse but is trying it out.
I think we should engage with it constructively, so they can see the Fedi as a viable alternative way forward, instead of corporates like Facebook, Twitter etc.
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Thu, 28 Apr 2022 14:54:51 +0200
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Anarxosatanisths
https://mastodon.lol/@anarxosatanisths
@FediFollows
@EU_Commission
να το πω και στα αγγλικά
#kalwstarxidiamas
jam:
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Thu, 28 Apr 2022 15:41:45 +0200
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Catfluoride
catfluoride@mastodon.social
@FediFollows
@EU_Commission
really cool
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Thu, 28 Apr 2022 16:44:14 +0200
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LPS
lps@masto.1146.nohost.me
@FediFollows
@EU_Commission
even if it's a mirror of Twitter it's a step in the right direction:)
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Thu, 28 Apr 2022 18:16:19 +0200
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gulpi
https://hollablog.at/@gulpi
@FediFollows
@EU_Commission
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Thu, 28 Apr 2022 18:53:01 +0200
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NotThatKier
NotThatKier@mastodon.online
@FediFollows
@EU_Commission
a Ukrainian flag? Really?
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Thu, 28 Apr 2022 18:54:36 +0200
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NotThatKier
NotThatKier@mastodon.online
@FediFollows
@goofy
@EU_Commission
who owns the data is key: why can’t this be citizen owned?
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Thu, 28 Apr 2022 19:04:33 +0200
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Hans van Zijst
hans@social.woefdram.nl
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NotThatKier
who owns the data is key: why can’t this be citizen owned?
What exactly do you want to own? The messages that these accounts are going to send?
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Thu, 28 Apr 2022 19:06:25 +0200
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@NotThatKier
@goofy
@EU_Commission
The server is citizen owned, it's owned by the EU, which is in turn owned by the elected governments of the member states.
The only data on a Mastodon server is its own users posts and whatever posts outsiders share with them. In this case it would just be a few EU civil servants' Masto logins etc.
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Thu, 28 Apr 2022 19:14:50 +0200
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NotThatKier
NotThatKier@mastodon.online
@FediFollows
@goofy
@EU_Commission
that’s not direct citizen ownership , and you know it
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Thu, 28 Apr 2022 19:27:11 +0200
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Hans van Zijst
hans@social.woefdram.nl
@
NotThatKier
Again, what exactly do you want to own?
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Thu, 28 Apr 2022 19:41:53 +0200
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NotThatKier
NotThatKier@mastodon.online
@hans
I want the data and infrastructure to be COMMUNITY owned, not corporate owned, or unelected entity owned
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Thu, 28 Apr 2022 19:43:37 +0200
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@NotThatKier
@goofy
@EU_Commission
I think you might be misunderstanding what they're doing?
The EU aren't setting up a public server, it's just their own office server for publishing official info. There is no personal data being handled.
It means anyone can follow the EU account from elsewhere on Mastodon, without any of their personal data going to the EU.
Previously you would have had to sign up on Facebook or Twitter to follow their official social media accounts.
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Thu, 28 Apr 2022 19:48:16 +0200
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FediFollows has moved!
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@NotThatKier
@hans
The personal data and infrastructure you're referring to is on the server you signed up on, not on servers you follow.
So, if you signed up on a community server then your infrastructure and data already is community owned.
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Thu, 28 Apr 2022 19:52:12 +0200
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NotThatKier
NotThatKier@mastodon.online
@FediFollows
@goofy
@EU_Commission
so as song as you can’t ‘register’ user accounts on it that’s super. But point still stands: we need citizen ownership of pods that host citizens. I don’t trust big tech, I don’t trust unelected institutions
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Thu, 28 Apr 2022 20:17:58 +0200
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Pepijn
Pepijn@mastodon.online
@NotThatKier
@FediFollows
@goofy
@EU_Commission
The entire point of the EU (via the EDPS) setting up their own instance is to evade unelected big tech..
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Thu, 28 Apr 2022 20:52:44 +0200
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Ignacio Castro
https://mastodon.social/@ignactro
@FediFollows
@goofy
@EU_Commission
Any insight into why? Is there any official press release?
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Thu, 28 Apr 2022 21:07:02 +0200
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FediFollows has moved!
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@ignactro
@goofy
@EU_Commission
There's a press release here:
https://edps.europa.eu/press-publications/press-news/press-releases/2022/edps-launches-pilot-phase-two-social-media_en
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Thu, 28 Apr 2022 21:16:57 +0200
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Ignacio Castro
https://mastodon.social/@ignactro
@FediFollows
@goofy
@EU_Commission
Thanks!
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Thu, 28 Apr 2022 21:46:31 +0200
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Abby
commandelicious@mastodon.online
@FediFollows
@Zekovski
@f_alex93
@peertube
@Framasoft
Ohhh yes. The plan is coming together.
European admins for european social media, not bound to silicon valley and their non existant hate speech laws ...
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Fri, 29 Apr 2022 01:34:43 +0200
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Rusty Freewheel
RJF@mastodon.social
@FediFollows
@EU_Commission
It's a good start
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Fri, 29 Apr 2022 14:22:06 +0200
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Milapolitical
https://mas.to/@Milapolitical
@FediFollows
@EU_Commission
Ew...
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Fri, 29 Apr 2022 16:09:16 +0200
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formamac
formamac@mastodon.social
@FediFollows
@EU_Commission
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Sat, 30 Apr 2022 11:19:20 +0200
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NotThatKier
NotThatKier@mastodon.online
@Pepijn
@FediFollows
@goofy
@EU_Commission
yes. But that doesn’t make it citizen owned. That’s not a controversial or disputed point, I don’t think
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Sat, 30 Apr 2022 11:34:24 +0200
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Pepijn
Pepijn@mastodon.online
@NotThatKier
@FediFollows
@goofy
@EU_Commission
I think you have to explain what you mean with your definition of citizen owned here. Do you want EU money to pay for a server where citizens can make an account?
*to me as an EU citizen: this is a news and information service run by one of our elected bodies in accordance to EU data and privacy laws. As an EU citizen I own 1 out of 447millionth of both hardware, software and data. That's all.
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Sat, 30 Apr 2022 11:43:40 +0200
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FediFollows has moved!
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@Pepijn
@goofy
I think this was all just a misunderstanding,
@NotThatKier
thought the EU were setting up a public server for people to sign up on.
They're not, they've just set up a private server where they can issue press releases (and potentially answer questions).
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Sat, 30 Apr 2022 11:46:49 +0200
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Pepijn
Pepijn@mastodon.online
@FediFollows
@goofy
@NotThatKier
Ah yes, it appears they misunderstood. And I had not seen your comment in between.
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Sat, 30 Apr 2022 17:03:03 +0200
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Quantum
QuantumAspect@mastodon.social
@FediFollows
@EU_Commission
If i reply to an EU post, can they now remove my reply at will? As i understood it, every owner of an instance can moderate posts at their instance.
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Sat, 30 Apr 2022 17:10:17 +0200
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FediFollows has moved!
FediFollows@mastodon.online
@QuantumAspect
@EU_Commission
Any server owner can block specific accounts from communicating with their server. That has to be possible because otherwise threads would fill up with automated spambots etc.
Server owners can only block you from their server though. They can't affect what happens on other servers.
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