Hans van Zijst

Hans van Zijst

hans@social.woefdram.nl

Professional nerd and grammar nazi, writes in Dutch and English. Can read some German, French and Spanish too. Learning русский.

Location:: Netherlands

Sat, 24 Jun 2023 12:31:12 +0200

Hans van Zijst

hans@social.woefdram.nl

Here's #Putin addressing the nation, with English subtitles. Sounds like he's finally scared things are getting out of his control.

https://nitter.net/BNONews/status/1672518775441092609

#Ukraine #war

Sat, 24 Jun 2023 16:36:45 +0200

V. T. Eric Layton

vtel57@diasp.org

Oh, his reign is definitely being tested at this moment in time.

Sat, 24 Jun 2023 03:22:42 +0200 last edited: Sat, 24 Jun 2023 03:23:33 +0200

Hans van Zijst

hans@social.woefdram.nl

Bit of speculation from my side here, but wouldn't it be brilliant if the attack on those #Wagner camps actually came from Ukraine?

@Bellingcat already showed that a Russian military blogger visited a camp, and it wouldn't be the first time a Russian target was attacked by #Ukraine after Russians were sloppy enough to reveal its location by something stupid like carrying a cellphone or publishing photos with the GPS coordinates in the exif info.

Would be a stroke of genius if #Ukraine had actually triggered this infighting.

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Sat, 24 Jun 2023 03:42:12 +0200

CyBarbie

nf3xn@mastodon.social

@hans you should check out the video. It is an obvious fake. Hilariously bad.

Unless it meant to be in which case it is a comedy masterpiece.

Sat, 24 Jun 2023 03:55:23 +0200

Hans van Zijst

hans@social.woefdram.nl

@@nf3xn I saw a short bit of it, I'm not sure if it was fake or not. Thank god I've never been in a war zone, and I don't really know what a forest looks like after a missile strike.

But it has crossed my mind that it could be fake, indeed. There's a lot of misdirection going on, on both sides, so it's well possible that we're looking at some show.

But what's important now is that Wagner seems to be out of the war, and forcing Russian troops to fight them instead of Ukraine. And that's good news 😎

Sat, 24 Jun 2023 04:17:00 +0200

Michael Fenichel

psych@diasp.org

I just went to the link/page of CNN coverage,, which was updated. Now I get Shteyngart's reference to Rostov. Early Saturday, RU time.

Videos can be manicured, etc., translations (esp. Russian) can be opaque, but I do believe it's looking like the caterer may be looking for a new position.

Which also contextualizes comments I'm seeing like, "Be careful what you wish for... if you think life under Putin is bad..."

38 min ago Rostov region governor asks residents to stay calm From CNN's Josh Pennington

Rostov region Governor Vasily Golubev is asking residents to stay calm and to not leave their homes.

"Dear fellow countrymen! The current situation requires a maximum concentration of all efforts to maintain order. Law enforcement agencies are doing everything necessary to ensure the safety of the region's residents. I ask everyone to stay calm and do not leave your homes unless it is necessary," Golubev said in a Telegram post Saturday. The warnings come after Wagner chief Yevgeny Prigozhin said his fighters were entering the Russian Rostov region, which neighbors Ukraine. Prigozhin earlier vowed retaliation after accusing Russia's defense ministry of killing a "huge amount" of his mercenaries in a strike on a camp.

Sat, 24 Jun 2023 14:18:19 +0200

Isaac Kuo

isaackuo@diaspora.glasswings.com

As I understand it, the early footage that Prigozhin shared claiming it was from a Russian attack on Wagner looks faked (by Prigozhin's folks). But since then, there has been a lot of stuff which is not fake.

Sat, 24 Jun 2023 21:22:41 +0200

Michael Fenichel

psych@diasp.org

I'm 'woke' now after working late-night, which gave me the treat of watching Putin live, and reading/seeing more of/about Prigozhin) ...

So many images now, 'faked' or not, present a clear picture of Wagner movements while the public proclamations of mayors, etc. (encouraging care) also emphasize the level of alarm. For many reasons. On many levels.

I'd meant afterwards to re-find the comment - which I now see is "here":

Bit of speculation from my side here, but wouldn’t it be brilliant if the attack on those #Wagner camps actually came from Ukraine?

Thought about this, and... true! One nicely placed strike by Ukraine, in combination with the thinking/goals of Prigozhin, would have been a master-stroke of strategy. Instant Civil War among Russia's military, and they'll do a lot of work rather than Ukraine needing to expend more forces/ammo. "Who knows?"

Also reflected still more on

(1) How Prigozhin, were he to somehow rock Putin &/or come to power himself, would compare to Putin. (Two ruthless oligarchs up to their eyeballs in money, including blood diamonds and gold... Wagner sends fodder to the front and shoots any who do not comply, many from prisons, etc.)

(2) Assuming it's not determined it actually was Ukraine (or Putin claims so after tea with Prigozhin), does it make a difference on the battlefield now? And what are the implications now that it's "spring offensive time" an Ukraine has started deploying newer Western weaponry and defenses?

Forgive me if it was all a dream I'm blathering on about! I've not yet seen what's coming out of Russia ("news") beyond some tweets and one email from Moscow.

Well, less Titan stories, though surely in the US #GymJordan et al will continue to ignore Russia, America, and planet earth in favor of vilifying the Bidens and #justice.

"Context and Perspective" Stay Safe!

Sat, 24 Jun 2023 22:35:15 +0200

Hans van Zijst

hans@social.woefdram.nl

Hmm, I'm offline for a few hours, having a nice family gathering, and now I see the anticlimactic message that Prigozhin stopped just as suddenly as he started.

Too bad, I would love to have seen Putin running for the hills.

Well, it was a nice intermezzo, and with a bit of luck Ukraine can still exploit the chaos.

Sat, 24 Jun 2023 22:57:04 +0200

Michael Fenichel

psych@diasp.org

So much happens during "offline breaks" from the flood of info, real & not...

I'd still not accept Putin's offer to have tea.

Also caught some posts about Putin having been tracked (air flight) leaving Moscow. It's almost 5PM (17:00) here now, an night in Ukraine/RU, so I guess I'll catch up more fully soon. First, need to do a little work - as the world turns.

2 highlights I see, real-time now, to get me up to speed (both reliable sources):

Prigozhin , leaving Rostov by car, is treated like a rock star.

and this...

Whoever is running #Wagner's Telegram channel is deeply disappointed that #Prigozhin folded.

Sat, 24 Jun 2023 23:04:54 +0200

Hans van Zijst

hans@social.woefdram.nl

Yeah, I think it's a matter of time before Prigozjin accidentally falls out of a window, or drinks a wrong cup of tea.

Putin apparently tucked his tail and let Lukashenko handle this one. Doesn't make him look strong, which is a good thing.

Sun, 25 Jun 2023 01:08:16 +0200

Isaac Kuo

isaackuo@diaspora.glasswings.com

This may be anticlimactic compared to what we were immediately expecting, but it's not over. Yeah, Prigozhin is probably dead and maybe he'll try and make an escape to somewhere other than Belarus.

But what's going to happen to all his troops? Are they going to just quietly wait as they get purged?

It's not like the Russians loyal to Putin even need to lift a finger to purge them off ... just text coordinates to the AFU, and boom. They rid themselves of traitors and expend some Ukrainian ammo at the same time.

Sun, 25 Jun 2023 01:34:12 +0200

Hans van Zijst

hans@social.woefdram.nl

Agree, this isn't over. Putin's image of the almighty ruler took a hit, and most Wagner troops will probably be out, weakening Russian military force.

I think quite a few bottles of champagne were enjoyed in Ukraine in the last 24 hours.

Sat, 24 Jun 2023 02:38:36 +0200 last edited: Sat, 24 Jun 2023 02:39:00 +0200

Hans van Zijst

hans@social.woefdram.nl

Oh ffs #CNN, enough about that submarine already, bring us the news that matters!

#Ukraine

Sat, 24 Jun 2023 02:06:18 +0200

Hans van Zijst

hans@social.woefdram.nl

I planned to go to bed at a reasonable time today, but then the #war in #Ukraine suddenly seemed to blow up in Putin's face. Finally, I should add.

I'm not a fan of #Prigozhin btw, I think he's as dangerous as #Putin, but the fact that someone with actual military power finally stands up to Putin is a very hopeful development.

Let's hope this is the beginning of the end for Putin, and the beginning of freedom in #Russia.

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Sat, 24 Jun 2023 02:23:05 +0200

ottonafo 🇺🇦

ottona@mastodon.social

@hans hopes are but i think it's too early to bet on that (though either way it'll weaken #fckptn's position).

but what's granted is the lack thousands of wagner orcs on the frontlines further destabilizing the ruscist defense. ukraine will definitely exploit that. 😉

Sat, 24 Jun 2023 02:36:01 +0200

Hans van Zijst

hans@social.woefdram.nl

@ottona Oh yes, this is definitely very good news for Ukraine. As long as the orcs are fighting the uruk-hai, they can advance and kick the intruders out.

Sat, 24 Jun 2023 02:55:51 +0200

Kenny Chaffin

kennychaffin@diasp.org

We'll see.....

Wed, 10 May 2023 18:18:59 +0200

Hans van Zijst

hans@social.woefdram.nl

'Complete a**hole': Wagner mercenary chief mocks Putin following embarrassing one-tank Victory Day parade in his most daring challenge to the Russian leader's authority yet.

I know, it's just the Daily Mail, but if they're not grossly mistranslating his words, I think someone's going to fall out of a window soon.

Wagner chief mocks Putin after one-tank Victory Day parade

Yevgeny Prigozhin released a scathing video seemingly directed at the Russian president, trashing his troops' lack of ammunition and threatening to strangle those responsible

#Ukraine

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Wed, 10 May 2023 18:20:58 +0200

ReneDamkot

ReneDamkot@mastodon.social

@hans dan maar hopen dat dat raam groot genoeg is voor beiden.

Wed, 10 May 2023 18:24:33 +0200

Hans van Zijst

hans@social.woefdram.nl

@ReneDamkot Dat zou het mooiste zijn, ja. Als Prigozjin Poetin zou opvolgen, zou de wereld daar niet beter van worden.

Wed, 10 May 2023 18:29:14 +0200

Sean McCabe

darthstar@mastodon.online

@hans
Prigozhin's only line of communication with the Kremlin appears to be these videos. I wonder if they may be, in part, propaganda psyops...but then Ukraine confirmed that they wiped out 500 Wagnerites the other day in Bakhmut, so who knows for sure?

The important thing is that Ukraine prevail, regardless of Kremlin drama.

Wed, 10 May 2023 18:37:27 +0200

Hans van Zijst

hans@social.woefdram.nl

@Sean McCabe

The important thing is that Ukraine prevail, regardless of Kremlin drama.

Absolutely!

Wed, 10 May 2023 18:40:27 +0200

tom grzybow

tomgrzybow@diasp.nl

Kremlin drama helps bring this awful aggression to a close.

Wed, 10 May 2023 18:55:49 +0200

Hans van Zijst

hans@social.woefdram.nl

@tom grzybow As long as top brass keeps bickering among themselves, they're not leading. Which helps Ukraine kick their asses.

But a coup could easily make things worse. Putin's head on a stake would be a sight for sore eyes, but if Prigozhin would succeed him, an even bigger madman would be in charge.

Wed, 25 Jan 2023 13:34:03 +0100

Hans van Zijst

hans@social.woefdram.nl

Jetzt geht's los!

Germany confirms it will send Leopard tanks to Ukraine

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2023/01/25/world/russia-ukraine-news

#ukraine #leopard2

ukraine

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Wed, 25 Jan 2023 13:52:23 +0100

Hans van Zijst

hans@social.woefdram.nl

Now, when are we donating a bunch of F16's?

Wed, 25 Jan 2023 13:56:31 +0100

Tom Grzybow

tomgrzybow@diaspora.freifunk-naila.net

It's kind of amusing the statements the US makes about the Abrams tank. It comes across as not being a generally useful weapon. Not a way to sell more of these - or win a war with them, if true.

Wed, 25 Jan 2023 14:09:08 +0100

Hans van Zijst

hans@social.woefdram.nl

@Tom Grzybow Bit weird indeed, but they may have a point. The Abrams is a complicated machine, needs quite a technical crew for maintenance and is incredibly expensive to operate. You don't want it to be abandoned because of a break down, to be captured by the Russians.

But of course, that goes for the Leopard too.

Wed, 25 Jan 2023 14:12:37 +0100

Tom Grzybow

tomgrzybow@diaspora.freifunk-naila.net

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M1_Abrams#Chrysler_is_chosen

By spring 1976, the decision to choose the GM design was largely complete. In addition to offering better overall performance, there were concerns about Chrysler's engine both from a reliability and fuel consumption standpoint. The GM program was also slightly cheaper overall at $208 million compared to $221 million for Chrysler. In July 1976, Lt. Colonel George Mohrmann prepared a stack of letters informing Congress of the decision to move ahead with the GM design. All that was required was the final sign-off by the Secretary of Defense, Donald Rumsfeld.[15] On 20 July 1976, United States Secretary of the Army Martin Hoffman and a group of generals visited Deputy Defense Secretary Bill Clements and Director of Defense Research and Engineering Malcolm Currie on their decision. They were surprised when Clements and Currie criticized their decision and demanded the turbine be selected. Donald Rumsfeld heard arguments from both in the afternoon and asked for twenty-four hours to review the issues. The Army team spent the night writing briefs and presented them to Rumsfeld the next morning, who then announced a four-month delay.[15]

The tank we see was based largely upon a political decision.

Wed, 25 Jan 2023 14:15:03 +0100

Monkeymind 🖕

monkeymind@pod.geraspora.de

Apart from the aspect that the Ukrainian army will probably find a use for these tanks, and it will hopefully get this terrible war over sooner than without them...

... their performance agaonst the competitor's products will be closely monitored, and will feature in the manufacturer's sales material.

Wars tend to drive economies. Not that of Ukraine, in this case, of course.

Wed, 25 Jan 2023 14:21:31 +0100

Kenny Chaffin

kennychaffin@diasp.org

Good.

Wed, 25 Jan 2023 14:26:46 +0100

Kenny Chaffin

kennychaffin@diasp.org

If they don't want them captured then they need a built-in self-destruct, eh?

Wed, 25 Jan 2023 14:27:39 +0100

Kenny Chaffin

kennychaffin@diasp.org

All the big guns should have been brought out by the world against Putin when he invaded Crimea!

Wed, 25 Jan 2023 14:31:18 +0100

Hans van Zijst

hans@social.woefdram.nl

@Kenny Chaffin Agree! He should have been kicked back into Russia as soon as he seized it. With his so-called referendum...

Wed, 25 Jan 2023 14:33:36 +0100

Tom Grzybow

tomgrzybow@diaspora.freifunk-naila.net

"Initiating self-destruct sequence... 10... 9... 8..."

Hal? WTF???

Wed, 25 Jan 2023 14:35:20 +0100

Tom Grzybow

tomgrzybow@diaspora.freifunk-naila.net

He should have been kicked back into Russia as soon as he seized it. With his so-called referendum…

Appeasement never works. On the other hand, we were not ready for war at that point in time. It's only recently that we have begun dumping more and more massive amounts of funds into the military budget.

Wed, 25 Jan 2023 18:31:47 +0100

Isaac Kuo

isaackuo@diaspora.glasswings.com

The original M1 had some shortcomings, but by the M1A2 revision these were addressed. The result is an excellent Main Battle Tank that has a big edge over other tanks proven in combat. It's not just the superior defensive armor and offensive punch, but also the superior optics, situational awareness, and command and control.

However, the M1A2 demands a lot of logistical support, which is why Leopard 2 looks favorable. Experience with Ukrainian use of 155mm artillery systems is that they spend a lot of down time being sent back to Poland for repair/maintenance and getting sent back to the front. This isn't going to work for the M1A2, because they require far more continuous logistical support.

So that's why we've been taking so much time figuring out how to make supplying M1 to Ukraine even work.

This aspect of the M1 isn't really the fault of any political decision. Developing a tank is complex, and the end results are inevitably hit-and-miss. Sometimes you get lucky with an end product that requires less maintenance and is very reliable under rough conditions. Sometimes you don't.

Wed, 25 Jan 2023 19:31:45 +0100

Monkeymind 🖕

monkeymind@pod.geraspora.de

You all realize we're not comparing the latest smartphone toys here, right?

Wed, 25 Jan 2023 19:59:45 +0100

Tom Grzybow

tomgrzybow@diaspora.freifunk-naila.net

Sometimes you don’t. Well, it was the turbine idea which was seemingly most imposed.

As for the weight and complexity, maybe it's time for a complete re-design? How 'bout one made mostly of aluminum and titanium - with the active armor on top of that? If the machine is lighter, it also does not need quite as large an engine, and will get better mileage. Or is gross mass an inherent part of the safety-design?

Wed, 25 Jan 2023 20:12:59 +0100

Hans van Zijst

hans@social.woefdram.nl

Sounds a bit like the Korean K2 Black Panther

Wed, 25 Jan 2023 23:10:05 +0100

Isaac Kuo

isaackuo@diaspora.glasswings.com

The K2 Black Panther is the most expensive and complex MBTs out there. Is it worth costing even more than an M1A2? Maybe? It has some interesting capabilities, as well as being the only MBT so far capable of firing indirect fire anti-tank ammo. And even if it's on the expensive side, the geopolitical advantages of not depending on others to supply South Korea their tanks might be worth the higher price tag.

Anyway, the most plausible M1A2 replacement would be something like the M1 AbramsX, which exists in prototype demonstrator form. It is indeed lighter than the M1A2, features a new more efficient hybrid power pack, unmanned turret, and a whole bunch of fancy new capabilities and systems. If the US Army goes ahead with it, not all of these systems may be used, and/or they may be significantly modified.

For example, the 30mm chain gun towers above the turret - it's very visible and vulnerable. But battlefield experience in Ukraine suggests some sort of anti-drone armament may be a good idea.

But in the meantime, the M1A2 is really at the top of its game. It doesn't have any flaws which have the US Army in any sort of "panic mode" looking for a replacement.

Thu, 26 Jan 2023 02:09:25 +0100

Tom Grzybow

tomgrzybow@diaspora.freifunk-naila.net

more efficient hybrid power pack

Let's go full-electric!

Thu, 26 Jan 2023 02:11:37 +0100

Tom Grzybow

tomgrzybow@diaspora.freifunk-naila.net

It doesn’t have any flaws which have the US Army in any sort of “panic mode” looking for a replacement.

Except that it is (or was) inappropriate for use in Ukraine.

Thu, 26 Jan 2023 02:38:57 +0100

Isaac Kuo

isaackuo@diaspora.glasswings.com

Oh, it would utterly wipe the floor with the Russian invasion forces in Ukraine. Like, it would be a cakewalk for the US Army, seriously.

The US Army's priority is - correctly - what military systems work well within the context of their own military force structure and logistical infrastructure. They don't concern themselves with what equipment is most suitable for supplying to others, and rightly so.

Thu, 26 Jan 2023 02:40:35 +0100

Tom Grzybow

tomgrzybow@diaspora.freifunk-naila.net

Good point.

Thu, 26 Jan 2023 02:42:40 +0100

Isaac Kuo

isaackuo@diaspora.glasswings.com

And when I say it would be a cakewalk, it's not just a matter of great technological and logistical advantages. The US Army's forces are just numerically ridiculous also.

The original Russian invasion force was also numerically formidable, but the Ukrainians have massively downgraded those numbers through a year of high intensity combat. I mean, the Russian command also had something to do with it, what with their repeated throwing of Russian forces into the same kill zones over and over again.

Thu, 26 Jan 2023 03:30:37 +0100

Tom Grzybow

tomgrzybow@diaspora.freifunk-naila.net

When the Russians had trouble moving down the f'n highway, no one could understand. I myself thought they were somewhat competent.

Wed, 18 Jan 2023 01:19:24 +0100

Hans van Zijst

hans@social.woefdram.nl

It took a lot more than a few hours, but those #Patriot installations are finally going to #Ukraine.

Hans van Zijst wrote the following post Tue, 12 Apr 2022 00:37:08 +0200

Now, let's find a way to deliver some MiG-29 jet fighters, a couple of F-16s and a bunch of Patriot SAM installations to the Ukrainian soldiers, within a couple of hours if possible.

Sun, 30 Oct 2022 12:57:10 +0100

Hans van Zijst

hans@social.woefdram.nl

"Blyatskrieg"

Special Kherson Cat 🐈🇺🇦 (@bayraktar_1love)

Russian soldiers show why lying on the windshield on the driver's side is a bad idea.
PS: 🧢-R.I.P.

#ukraine

ukraine

Mon, 17 Oct 2022 14:02:49 +0200

Hans van Zijst

hans@social.woefdram.nl

I've heard non-Dutch people say that they don't know who Thierry Baudet is. Let me enlighten you.

He's the leader of Forum for Democracy, a far right political party that oozes racism, antisemitism and conspiracy theories. He's an MP, unfortunately, but has been suspended for a week for breaking parliamentary rules, a first in Dutch parliamentary history.

We've know for some time that he's deep in Putin's, but in true Kremlin style, he has mostly denied that. But no more. Hear him drop his mask and profess his adoration for Putin, like the treasonist he is:

dr. Marina (@mmeeuw)

New outrageous interview with Kremlin controlled Dutch politician @thierrybaudet "We are governed by evil reptiles. The only one that can save us is dark knight Vladimir Putin. #Putin must win and we must do whatever we can to support him" #Baudet #Russia #Kompromat #Ukraine

politics

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Mon, 17 Oct 2022 14:21:47 +0200

Hans van Zijst

hans@social.woefdram.nl

Oh, my prediction is that he's going to claim that this was "only a joke" and that we all "misunderstood" it. That has been his go to reaction if people call him out on his crap.

Mon, 17 Oct 2022 14:26:49 +0200

ottonafo 🇺🇦

ottona@mastodon.social

@hans disgusting. again we see, putin's most rewarding investment has been the infiltration of european politics.

Mon, 17 Oct 2022 14:35:30 +0200

Hans van Zijst

hans@social.woefdram.nl

@ottona Yup, you have to admit that Putin is a shrewd guy. Let's hope most people in Europe and the rest of the world will turn away from his puppets before they get big enough. Baudet's party is waaaay to big in our parliament for my taste, and I'm sure he has control of parties all over Europe

Mon, 17 Oct 2022 14:40:08 +0200

ottonafo 🇺🇦

ottona@mastodon.social

@hans another right wing party i presume.

Mon, 17 Oct 2022 15:31:30 +0200

Quantum

QuantumAspect@mastodon.social

@hans @ottona No matter how appalling the current government is, and it is terribly anti-democratic with the prime minister openly admitting without any consequence that he lies to parliament, you don't vote for a (semi) fascist party. Full stop. 30 years ago the vast majority of the Dutch people would agree with me. But nowadays things have changed and the population seems to long for a strongman, any strongman. Is it lack of history teaching in the schools?

Mon, 17 Oct 2022 16:31:15 +0200

Hans van Zijst

hans@social.woefdram.nl

@Quantum

Is it lack of history teaching in the schools?

Not sure, but the problem isn't just in the Netherlands, it seems rampant in the entire western world. Look at the abomination that was elected president in the US in 2016, see what rightwing filth rose up in Sweden and what fascists won the elections in Italy. France and Germany have dodged that bullet so far, but for how long?

Mon, 17 Oct 2022 16:52:02 +0200

Quantum

QuantumAspect@mastodon.social

@hans My personal analysis is that western politicians have become more self-protectingly dishonest over time. They shun standing open in the full nakedness of honesty. This makes the population cynical: A fascist strongman can not be any worse than the current politics, they reckon. They are dead wrong. The solution is not current politicians fulminating against fascist parties, but they themselves must introspect and become brave enough to be honest again.

Mon, 17 Oct 2022 22:57:42 +0200

HernanLG

hernanlg@diaspora.anjara.eu

I couldn't believe the video when I saw it. I know the guy is stupid and pro-putin, but evil reptilians... wow, I can't believe he's an MP. What is the original source of the video? Why isn't this in every news outlet in the Netherlands?

Mon, 17 Oct 2022 23:12:20 +0200

Hans van Zijst

hans@social.woefdram.nl

@HernanLG

Why isn't this in every news outlet in the Netherlands?

Good question.

Tue, 18 Oct 2022 09:26:35 +0200

Witcraft (Hubzilla)

witcraft@hubzilla.fediversum.de

@HernanLG

but evil reptilians... wow,

That I actually remember that as a very entertaining plot (well, from a trashy 80ies SciFi perspective, at least... ).

Tue, 18 Oct 2022 10:38:39 +0200

Hans van Zijst

hans@social.woefdram.nl

Ah yes, V. I remember that series!

Apparently some jokers have managed to convince people that that is real. If they're gullable enough to believe something like that, you can make them believe anything.

Tue, 18 Oct 2022 11:46:25 +0200

Quantum

QuantumAspect@mastodon.social

@hans I thought that the bit about reptiles was a joke. But there seem to people who really believe that the world is dominated by extra terrestial reptiles, like this British guy David Icke. Well, let them bring in the first reptile for examination, i would say.
https://nieuws.nl/algemeen/20221018/cidi-wil-komst-omstreden-complotdenker-icke-verbieden/

Tue, 18 Oct 2022 15:20:05 +0200

Hans van Zijst

hans@social.woefdram.nl

Ah, yes, there's the "you misunderstood" that I predicted. Apparently his crap about reptilians was "obviously only a metaphor".

Tue, 18 Oct 2022 15:25:21 +0200

ottonafo 🇺🇦

ottona@mastodon.social

@hans lol. of course. a metaphor for what he won't say, i presume?

Tue, 18 Oct 2022 15:40:13 +0200

Hans van Zijst

hans@social.woefdram.nl

@ottona Hardly, indeed, he's very vague about that:

"Those who do this to us, are a kind of inhumans, reptiles, machines. Without feeling, if you will."

Could be a dog whistle, meaning jews, blacks, muslims or whatever Putin dislikes. As stated previously, Baudet (or shall we call him Marionette?) has quite a history of racism and antisemitism.

Tue, 18 Oct 2022 15:55:33 +0200

ottonafo 🇺🇦

ottona@mastodon.social

@hans yea, typical form of communication to pass a message to the respective circles. well received among the conspiracy fools, a lame excuse to the rest of the audience. that always works.

Fri, 14 Oct 2022 10:28:41 +0200

Hans van Zijst

hans@social.woefdram.nl

What a f...... hypocrite! He has no problem spending 44 BILLION on Twitter, but this has to be paid for by John D. Taxpayer?

Could it be that his his friend in the Kremlin has suggested it would be better if that service ceased to exist?

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/10/13/politics/elon-musk-spacex-starlink-ukraine/index.html

#ElonMusk
#Starlink
#Ukraine

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Fri, 14 Oct 2022 12:01:55 +0200

Joachim

rtfm@pod.dapor.net

Btw, the hardware (terminals etc.) is paid by the volunteers / soldiers in Ukraine

https://twitter.com/AProschenko/status/1580853074243252224

Fri, 14 Oct 2022 12:47:14 +0200

Hans van Zijst

hans@social.woefdram.nl

@Joachim Geez, that makes it even more hypocrite.

Fri, 14 Oct 2022 14:48:03 +0200

Anne Har

anne_har@diaspora.psyco.fr

F.... him !