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Thu, 14 Apr 2022 22:12:42 +0200

hans@social.woefdram.nl

I think the fire on battle cruiser Moskva is extinguished.

https://nitter.net/Osinttechnical/status/1514695087904727051

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Thu, 14 Apr 2022 22:23:16 +0200

Hans

hans@federate.hopto.org

Ik ook, op de bodem van de zee

Thu, 14 Apr 2022 22:25:57 +0200

Wilco Roos

wroos@diasp.org

If true, definitely no fire anymore indeed..

Thu, 14 Apr 2022 22:27:30 +0200

Hans

hans@federate.hopto.org

Russen bevestigen het zinken van hun vlaggenschip Moskva in Zwarte Zee

Bron: nos.nl

Thu, 14 Apr 2022 22:29:36 +0200

Hans van Zijst

hans@social.woefdram.nl

Waiting for Putin to claim that the special military operation is still going according to plan... :-D

Thu, 14 Apr 2022 22:32:40 +0200

Hans

hans@federate.hopto.org

Cnn also states soldiers in Belarus are now fighting Russians in the Ukraine. Hope this is more trust worthy then some Dutch papers

Thu, 14 Apr 2022 22:39:14 +0200

Hans van Zijst

hans@social.woefdram.nl

That would be good news. I heard rumors about mutiny among Russian soldiers too.

Putin's army looks more and more like Sauron's: dumb orcs who fight among themselves.

Fri, 15 Apr 2022 00:15:16 +0200

Monkeymind

monkeymind@pod.geraspora.de

Dehumanize much?

Fri, 15 Apr 2022 00:18:12 +0200

Hans van Zijst

hans@social.woefdram.nl

You disagree with my comparison?

Fri, 15 Apr 2022 00:24:52 +0200

Monkeymind

monkeymind@pod.geraspora.de

I think it is telling, especially in light of your reaction to being called out.

Fri, 15 Apr 2022 00:26:01 +0200

Hans van Zijst

hans@social.woefdram.nl

Do explain.

Fri, 15 Apr 2022 00:31:34 +0200

Monkeymind

monkeymind@pod.geraspora.de

You want me to explain what "dehumanizing" means?

For real?

Fri, 15 Apr 2022 00:35:05 +0200

Hans van Zijst

hans@social.woefdram.nl

No, I would like you to explain what you want to suggest with your previous remark. What exactly is "telling"? And do you really think you're "calling me out" with those 2 words?

That's what I wanted explained, because either I misunderstand you, or you misunderstand me.

Fri, 15 Apr 2022 00:43:02 +0200

Monkeymind

monkeymind@pod.geraspora.de

You called Russian soldiers "orcs". When I asked whether you tend to dehumanize people you don't like, your reply seemed to make it about taking a position regarding the invasion.

Fri, 15 Apr 2022 00:52:57 +0200

Hans van Zijst

hans@social.woefdram.nl

No, I compared the Russian army to the army of orcs, and asked if you disagreed with that comparison. If you have followed the news since 24 February, you'll no doubt have seen more similarities between the two than just the infighting I referred to.

I didn't take a position about the Russian invasion, Not sure where you thought to have read that. But I'll do it now: I condemn the invasion and hope Putin and his henchmen will burn in hell for it. And I hope those Russian soldiers that kill civilians join them there.

Fri, 15 Apr 2022 00:58:36 +0200

Monkeymind

monkeymind@pod.geraspora.de

Okay, let me spell it out.

Lucky you were not born in Russia and drafted into that Army, or someone in Western Europe would be calling you a "dumb orc".

Got it now?

Fri, 15 Apr 2022 01:00:36 +0200

Hans van Zijst

hans@social.woefdram.nl

Not really, and neither do you. But have a good Easter holiday.

Fri, 15 Apr 2022 01:21:09 +0200

Monkeymind

monkeymind@pod.geraspora.de

You'll get it one day.

Have a good one, too.

Fri, 15 Apr 2022 11:37:09 +0200

Alexander Goeres

jabgoe2089@hub.netzgemeinde.eu

that's a nice success for the ukrainians. let's hope, this will help them ...