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Thu, 10 Aug 2023 10:51:53 +0200
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Hans van Zijst
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Thu, 10 Aug 2023 10:27:21 +0200
De
#NAVO
moet Godverdegodverdegodverdomme stoppen met treuzelen en
#oekraine
NU de luchtsteun geven die ze nodig hebben om te winnen.
#SlavaOekraine
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Thu, 10 Aug 2023 11:03:55 +0200
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420
420@krc.lol
@hans
@bazkie
Well join the Ukrain Foreign Army… Every fighting force matters. Everything it takes!
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Thu, 10 Aug 2023 11:09:03 +0200
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bazkie bumpercar | unfluencer
bazkie@mstdn.social
@420
@hans
Not everyone is born a soldier. I prefer helping by giving money, take my tax money and give planes to Ukraine pls (and yes I already donated, but I can do only so much living on minimum wage lol)
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Thu, 10 Aug 2023 11:33:17 +0200
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Hans van Zijst
hans@social.woefdram.nl
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420
@
bazkie bumpercar
I don't think Ukraine needs an old man with a crap physical condition. Plus, if I fight for a foreign army, I'm officially committing treason, so let's do something that actually makes sense.
We have an airforce, we could send aircraft to defend Ukrainian air space. That would make sense, not me wearing a uniform and tossing a rifle over my shoulder.
But I may be seeing things different than you, it's not 420 here yet 😉
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bazkie bumpercar | unfluencer
Thu, 10 Aug 2023 11:51:26 +0200
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Kenny Chaffin
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I agree completely and have been saying so since the invasion of Crimea!
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Hans van Zijst
Thu, 10 Aug 2023 14:46:08 +0200
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420
420@krc.lol
@bazkie
@hans
That’s awesome and don’t understand me wrong, war is never a solution… but what would you do if your country got invaded?
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Thu, 10 Aug 2023 14:47:14 +0200
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bazkie bumpercar | unfluencer
bazkie@mstdn.social
@420
@hans
then I'd probably ask the army/gov if they had need for a programmer / IT nerd
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Thu, 10 Aug 2023 15:24:12 +0200
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Hans van Zijst
hans@social.woefdram.nl
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420
War is never a solution, I couldn't agree more. But unfortunately it's also a reality.
I've asked myself what I should do in such a case, since my early teens. And honestly: I don't know. Back in the days I would say I'd be the first one to flee, but I've pondered that question for a few decades since then, and I don't know what I would do.
Fleeing would probably be the best option for me personally, because I'm not the type of guy to keep his mouth shut and so I'd probably be arrested/executed quite early in the war.
I find @
bazkie bumpercar
's idea quite good: I could probably help in the ICT department, and if my country would call on me, I think I'd do that.
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bazkie bumpercar | unfluencer
Fri, 11 Aug 2023 00:15:23 +0200
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420@krc.lol
@bazkie
@hans
Makes sense… I would to… hummmmm but if everybody wants that job who is then going to defend…
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Fri, 11 Aug 2023 00:25:15 +0200
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bazkie bumpercar | unfluencer
bazkie@mstdn.social
@420
@hans
You seem to believe that all that a war needs is soldiers, even untrained ones. Training soldiers costs years. And soldiers need weapons. And planes.
But I'm starting to get the feeling your goal here is to make us out for cowards?
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Fri, 11 Aug 2023 00:34:30 +0200
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420
420@krc.lol
@bazkie
@hans
Why? I am talking about myself, I also would rather do something in the background…
In today's military, infantry training typically spans from six to sixteen weeks, providing soldiers with essential skills for surviving on the battlefield. However, by focusing solely on combat-related instruction and minimizing free time, it is possible to condense the training period to just three weeks without compromising the minimum level of survivability.
Russia deploys soldiers as toy soldiers with basic training… the horror for what? Sometimes it seems as the world is more divided then we think. We in the west are disconnected in the reality of the most part of the world. Well we humans ever be in a state of global social equality?
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Fri, 11 Aug 2023 01:18:33 +0200
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bazkie bumpercar | unfluencer
bazkie@mstdn.social
@420
@hans
sorry for my false accusation, I misunderstood :)
"condense the training period to just three weeks without compromising the minimum level of survivability." => I find it very hard to believe becoming a pro soldier can be learnt in such a short amount of time!
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