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Sat, 09 Sep 2023 01:29:57 +0200
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Hans van Zijst
hans@social.woefdram.nl
Yet another test, let's hope this one can be boosted.
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Sat, 09 Sep 2023 01:39:00 +0200
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Hans van Zijst
hans@social.woefdram.nl
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cobratbq - cranky-by-design
Hubzilla doesn't show me that, but one of my "real" Mastodon accounts can boost it. The previous 2 test messages could not be boosted.
Thanks for testing 😉
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Sat, 09 Sep 2023 01:40:36 +0200
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Kenny Chaffin
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Boosted or reshaped? Or both?
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Sat, 09 Sep 2023 01:42:16 +0200
last edited: Sat, 09 Sep 2023 01:43:19 +0200
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@hans@social.woefdram.nl
@cobratbq
Mastodon doesn't show if it was boosted either. I believe you if you say you actually boosted it.
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Sat, 09 Sep 2023 01:45:50 +0200
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Hans van Zijst
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Kenny Chaffin
I don't know the hardcore Diaspora* language, but I meant a "retweet". Apparently my posts couldn't be boosted/retweeted anymore.
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Sat, 09 Sep 2023 01:50:02 +0200
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janszoon
janszoon@mastodon.social
@hans
ja dat kan
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Sat, 09 Sep 2023 01:56:24 +0200
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Hans van Zijst
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janszoon
Dank je, ik had het gezien. Nu nog uitvogelen waarom ik ineens expliciet "public" aan een post moet hangen.
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Sat, 09 Sep 2023 03:17:50 +0200
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Kenny Chaffin
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Good Luck!
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Sat, 09 Sep 2023 03:19:26 +0200
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Hans van Zijst
hans@social.woefdram.nl
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cobratbq - cranky-by-design
I've been fiddling with permissions in Hubzilla, which uses Zot6 as its base protocol. One option makes it possible to limit who can see the post.
But Mastodon, which uses ActivityPub, doesn't have a permission system like that, and apparently that setting causes it to make the post unboostable.
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Sat, 09 Sep 2023 11:22:34 +0200
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janszoon
janszoon@mastodon.social
@hans
suc6 altijd leuk dingen uitzoeken
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Hans van Zijst
Sat, 09 Sep 2023 19:03:06 +0200
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Hans van Zijst
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janszoon
inderdaad, dat is hoe ik destijds de ICT in ben gerold 😎
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Sat, 09 Sep 2023 21:25:04 +0200
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Mike Macgirvin
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Any post that is not public is not boostable on nearly any fediverse software. This is not a bug.
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Sun, 10 Sep 2023 00:59:49 +0200
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Hans van Zijst
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Mike Macgirvin
The catch was that I was suddenly posting to a privacy group, which made it non -public. Before that, all my posts were to "public".
I've been juggling with contact and privacy groups for a while, and I seem to have messed things up a bit. I've set the default recipient back to public and now it works correctly again.
I'm still not sure if I'm using contact and privacy groups correctly. I would expect I could filter my stream based on who's in that privacy group, but it doesn't seem to work like that.
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Sun, 10 Sep 2023 01:22:13 +0200
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Mike Macgirvin
mike@macgirvin.com
Hubzilla has changed a lot since I wrote it, so I can't answer specifically, but that's the way privacy groups are supposed to work. however there are two options. One is to filter your stream by privacy group, which would be in a tool that filters your stream. The other is sending a post to a privacy group, which is done within the post editor. It may or may not be automatically set when you select a privacy group. I think Hubzilla automatically sets it to the privacy group you are viewing. Streams does not set recipients automatically.
As for filtering your stream by privacy group, you'll have to ask somebody on Hubzilla what's going on. This used to work.
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Sun, 10 Sep 2023 02:20:05 +0200
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Hans van Zijst
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Mike Macgirvin
Thanks, good to know I was thinking in the right direction.
If I filter on group "Default", in which al my contacts are, I would expect a stream showing the latest posts of all my contacts, ordered by whatever. But the most recent post I see then, is 14 hours old.
My installation runs on a busy machine, that has run out of memory and disk space a few times. Maybe things broke. My database is huge, containing stuff that I think should have been purged years ago. At some point it turned out LDAP authentication had stopped working. I haven't found out why yet, I see no errors.
The next two weeks I want to do a fresh install on a fresh machine, or a Docker container. See if I can get LDAP to work again and then migrate most of my current installation.
I wanted to give Streams a shot, but then this week I realized it doesn't support Diaspora* and I have too many nice contacts there to drop that.
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Sun, 10 Sep 2023 02:37:51 +0200
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Mike Macgirvin
mike@macgirvin.com
We had a choice of supporting ActivityPub or Diaspora. I chose ActivityPub because it has support in the standards committees.
The problem with supporting two additional protocols, is that anybody using either one will only see you talking to yourself in conversations since they can't see who you're conversing with - unless they both federate with each other.
That represents a serious usability issue as well as a perception of Hubzilla being broken -- and I've been trying to get rid of usability issues and perceptions of being broken in Streams. So yeah, if you want Diaspora connections, use Hubzilla. And the rest of the fediverse will see you talking to yourself and wonder why Hubzilla is so hopelessly broken.
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Mon, 11 Sep 2023 00:10:44 +0200
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Hans van Zijst
hans@social.woefdram.nl
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Mike Macgirvin
Hehehe, I'm fully aware of that, people on Mastodon are missing the feed from Diaspora and vice versa. That's ok, Hubzilla isn't broken (in that regard), it's just their software that doesn't see the other side.
I mention that sometimes in threads if there are people on different protocols participating, so they know there's really someone else talking, and that the Fediverse is bigger than just Mastodon. That's why I keep tagging your name, so people can see who I'm talking to, even though they may not see your posts.
I understand that you picked ActivityPub, it's what the vast majority uses. And standardization is a thing. Apparently D* has its own set of challenges too.
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