Hans van Zijst

hans@social.woefdram.nl

Professional nerd and grammar nazi, writes in Dutch and English. Can read some German, French and Spanish too. Learning русский.

Location:: Netherlands

Mon, 28 Feb 2022 17:15:45 +0100

Hans van Zijst

hans@social.woefdram.nl

Waar is de tijd dat dr. Clavan ons kon uitleggen hoe het nou echt in elkaar stak..?

Groot-Rusland. Dr. Clavan legt uit - Van Kooten en De Bie

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Mon, 28 Feb 2022 15:38:07 +0100

Hans van Zijst

hans@social.woefdram.nl

€25 says no ceasefire will be reached.

Reuters World News wrote the following post Mon, 28 Feb 2022 15:34:00 +0100

Ukraine ceasefire talks begin http://reut.rs/3It1Y67

[:tw: https://tweets.newsbots.eu/ReutersWorld/status/1498304565225136134 — #bot]

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Mon, 28 Feb 2022 15:45:11 +0100

Adam Hunt

gander22h@diasp.org

My guess is Putin is just stalling.

Mon, 28 Feb 2022 15:57:40 +0100

isaackuo@diaspora.glasswings.com

@Adam Hunt Time isn't on Putin's side. Every hour; every day ... more weapons and supplies pour into Ukraine, and more people are getting armed.

I had heard that Putin ordered taking Kyiv by Monday no matter what ... that's clearly hasn't happened. But the push seems to be to encircle Kyiv and take Kharkiv by Monday. Neither of these objectives have been achieved.

But assuming they had been achieved, the obvious point would have been to intimidate the Ukrainians during the talks on Monday. The idea is to try to enter peace negotiations from a position of threatening strength. If the enemy is afraid of what you can do, the enemy will be more likely to offer favorable peace terms.

As it is, though, the Ukrainian delegation has little incentive to offer up enough for Putin to save face. Conversely, though, the Ukrainians continue to slowly lose ground so it's not like they're in a position of imposing threatening strength either. (Imagine, for example, if Ukraine had pushed the Russians back to the Belarus border and were pushing into Crimea.)

So yeah ... neither side is likely to offer the sort of concessions the other side wants. I won't be taking up that 25 Euros bet.

Mon, 28 Feb 2022 16:00:11 +0100

Hans van Zijst

hans@social.woefdram.nl

I think Ukraine could put some demands on the table: piss off from our country, including Crimea.

Mon, 28 Feb 2022 16:37:38 +0100

isaackuo@diaspora.glasswings.com

Well sure, they could put up those demands as a start of haggling ... no chance of the Russian side accepting it, of course.

My most optimistic possible outcome - the Ukrainians concede Donbas in exchange for ending the war. No terms mentioning NATO or neutrality at all. This might be considered just enough of a fig leaf concession for Putin to save face. At the same time, it conveniently rids Zelenskyy of the on-going internal conflict that has been an obstacle to NATO membership.

Shortly after the end of the war, Ukraine is welcomed into NATO and the EU. This is, of course, an extreme humiliation for Putin. But with everything falling apart around Putin, it may be the best he can get if he's smart.

(No, I do not think Putin is likely to accept these terms right now.)

Mon, 28 Feb 2022 16:48:22 +0100

Hans van Zijst

hans@social.woefdram.nl

@Isaac Kuo

Shortly after the end of the war, Ukraine is welcomed into NATO and the EU.

Not so sure about that. Saying it is one thing, but following all procedures (or finding some legal way around them) is another. I don't think Ukraine will be an EU member within a year from now, to be honest.

Mon, 28 Feb 2022 17:40:00 +0100

andreas_geisler@diaspora.glasswings.com

So long as the peace talks are not a Red Wedding...

Mon, 28 Feb 2022 17:49:11 +0100

Hans van Zijst

hans@social.woefdram.nl

Well, when I heard about Putin's "invitation" for talks on Belarussian soil, I couldn't help but think of the first scenes of Braveheart... Zelenskyy obviously thought the same and wisely decided not to go there himself, but send a delegation.

Mon, 28 Feb 2022 19:37:43 +0100

Martijn Vos

mcv@pluspora.com

If Putin's options are lose, peace or escalation, surely peace is the best option. But I don't know if he still thinks clearly to see it that way.

For peace I see two reasonable options: either Russia keeps Crimea and Donbas and Ukraine accepts that but can do whatever it wants, or Ukraine gets its land back, but is forced to remain neutral for 30 years or so (but that would require some pretty hard guarantees from the Russians and NATO, probably). Neither side gets everything they want, but this way everybody gets something at least.

Mon, 28 Feb 2022 12:25:50 +0100

Hans van Zijst

hans@social.woefdram.nl

You don't talk to a dog that has rabies. You isolate it or kill it.

Hackerdoge wrote the following post Mon, 28 Feb 2022 12:17:36 +0100

Resharing for a former colleague who is in Ukraine. Please share not just for the doge but for Ukraine!

https://hackernoon.com/stoprussianaggression-facts-and-how-you-can-help-ukraine

Mon, 28 Feb 2022 12:11:12 +0100

Hans van Zijst

hans@social.woefdram.nl

Aan de hoogste boom met die drie!

NOS Nieuws wrote the following post Mon, 28 Feb 2022 12:01:19 +0100

**Strafrechtelijk onderzoek naar stichting van Sywert van Lienden**

"Het Openbaar Ministerie start een strafrechtelijk onderzoek naar de Stichting Hulptroepen Alliantie, van Sywert van Lienden en twee compagnons. De stichting en haar bestuurders liggen onder een vergrootglas nadat was gebkejeb dat er miljoenen euro's waren verdiend aan de levering van medische hulpmiddelen zoals mondkapjes, aan het begi…"

https://nos.nl/l/2419219

#nieuws #bot

Mon, 28 Feb 2022 14:13:36 +0100

Hans van Zijst

hans@social.woefdram.nl

Beter laat dan nooit. Hoe langer dit tuig negatief in de publiciteit staat, hoe beter. Laten we hopen dat de rechter ze keihard aanpakt.

Mon, 28 Feb 2022 15:43:51 +0100

Hans van Zijst

hans@social.woefdram.nl

Oh, maar dat ziet er goed uit! #Sywert opgepakt!

Sywert van Lienden aangehouden in onderzoek naar mondkapjesdeal

De fiscale opsporingsdienst FIOD heeft Sywert van Lienden maandagmiddag in Hilversum aangehouden in het strafrechtelijk onderzoek van het Openbaar Ministerie naar de Stichting Hulptroepen Alliantie vanwege de mondkapjesdeal.

Sat, 26 Feb 2022 23:47:30 +0100

Hans van Zijst

hans@social.woefdram.nl

About time Russia got booted from the Security Council.

Reuters World News wrote the following post Sat, 26 Feb 2022 09:43:58 +0100

Russia vetoes U.N. Security action on Ukraine as China abstains http://reut.rs/3HlI3ED

[:tw: https://tweets.newsbots.eu/ReutersWorld/status/1497491680420937728 — #bot]

Sun, 27 Feb 2022 00:48:43 +0100

Adam Hunt

gander22h@diasp.org

I am not sure that there is a process to even do that.

Sun, 27 Feb 2022 00:50:46 +0100

Hans van Zijst

hans@social.woefdram.nl

Then this would be the perfect time to get such a process.

Then again, they can stay in the Council, but I really think they shouldn't have a veto.

Sun, 27 Feb 2022 00:59:22 +0100

Adam Hunt

gander22h@diasp.org

In the case of this resolution it was put up so they would have to veto it - it's an embarrassment for them.

Sat, 26 Feb 2022 22:58:33 +0100

Hans van Zijst

hans@social.woefdram.nl

Seems like the Russian people finally get a bit of news that was not filtered by #Putin and his henchmen: Anonymous apparently hacked the Russian state TV and broadcasts the stuff Putin doesn't want them to see.

https://twitter.com/YourAnonOne/status/1497682868985905154

Let's hope this is an incentive to oust Putin and get a decent government.

#ukraine

Ukraine

Sat, 26 Feb 2022 23:20:43 +0100

Hans van Zijst

hans@social.woefdram.nl

Probably. But the magicians don't reveal their tricks ;-)

Sat, 26 Feb 2022 18:36:57 +0100

Hans van Zijst

hans@social.woefdram.nl

Impossible to know how true this claim is, but it would be fantastic if it was: #Putin allegedly only has money for ten days of war.

https://twitter.com/RihoTerras/status/1497537193346220038

#ukraine

Ukraine

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Sat, 26 Feb 2022 18:54:00 +0100

Farhad A,

faab64@friendica.hubup.pro

There are so many videos of Russian tanks, trucks and other machines running out of diesel and asking locals for help, who put sugar in the diesel before giving it to the Russians causing their engines to break.

It is so unbelievably tragic to see all these young Russians who have no idea what they are doing being caught by Ukrainians or some even running away from their convoy.

Sat, 26 Feb 2022 19:19:50 +0100

Hans van Zijst

hans@social.woefdram.nl

If he'd screw up this invasion, not only would he be the laughing stock of the international community, his people at home would probably smell blood too.

Sat, 26 Feb 2022 19:52:49 +0100

Witcraft (Hubzilla)

witcraft@hub.hubzilla.de

And I do not think the NATO would give him a second chance - He might have sped up Ukraine to join the NATO, by trying to avoid it.

Sat, 26 Feb 2022 20:01:21 +0100

isaackuo@diaspora.glasswings.com

I agree that we can't know how true this claim is, but what is certain is that the world has noticed how the Ukrainian people have not withered away in panic.

Anyone who has been following me for a while may have noticed I have been supportive of Ukraine against Putin, and Taiwan against the CCP, for a long time ... before it has suddenly gotten really trending.

We're in the same boat. It's a defense of democracy, against autocratic invaders who wish to destroy that democracy.

I'm sure the CCP has drawn up all sorts of contingencies in their military plans. Some grim and drawn out. Some rosy assuming the Taiwanese people wither away in panic. I know there are plans for a small airborne attack to take out the Taiwanese leadership and quickly install a puppet government (much like the plans described in this thread).

Here's hoping the CCP is watching, and placing those rosy plans in a garbage bin.

Sat, 26 Feb 2022 20:42:47 +0100

andreas_geisler@diaspora.glasswings.com

Putin might suddenly find himself a head shorter.

Sat, 26 Feb 2022 20:59:15 +0100

Hans van Zijst

hans@social.woefdram.nl

I know I'm not supposed to say this, but I hope that's what's going to happen

Sat, 26 Feb 2022 21:12:14 +0100

andreas_geisler@diaspora.glasswings.com

Least loss of life, best basis for building peace. Defo the best option.

"Sorry, our nutty little dictator got carried away, here's his head on a platter, can we just forget about the last three weeks?"

Sun, 27 Feb 2022 00:08:06 +0100

Hans van Zijst

hans@social.woefdram.nl

If Putin were, erm, "escorted out of the Kremlin", I think Navaly would be a candidate to succeed him.

Then again, I don't know much about Russian politics.

Sun, 27 Feb 2022 00:14:54 +0100

Hans van Zijst

hans@social.woefdram.nl

Seeing how he has become the symbol of resistance against Putin, I think he would be an obvious choice.

Who would you expect to take over?

Sun, 27 Feb 2022 00:17:31 +0100

Hans van Zijst

hans@social.woefdram.nl

If Russia starts a nuclear war, all bets are off.

Sun, 27 Feb 2022 18:12:12 +0100

andreas_geisler@diaspora.glasswings.com

Putin is the head of the real government: The mafia. Whoever succeeds him will, purely by coincidence, ALSO be the head of the mafia.

Russia is not a nation, it is a hostage.

Mon, 28 Feb 2022 16:40:55 +0100

Witcraft (Hubzilla)

witcraft@hub.hubzilla.de

Well, I just read in a news feed that the Gremlin of the Kremlin hired 400 Wagner mercenaries to go after Zelenskyy...

So, now the world's largest country has its enourmous scale army running out of gas, missiles not working, tanks busted, paratroopers shot down, and banging their heads against a brick wall, in general. So what do you do? Hire a commando of professional killers - What's next?

Not that the whole invasion was following any legitimate rules of engagement anyway, but the story goes absolutely harebrained, on all levels. This is a story line no sane author could have come up with...

Mon, 28 Feb 2022 16:43:36 +0100

andreas_geisler@diaspora.glasswings.com

This would be a great time to annihilate all the world's mercenary armies. I kid. Every time is a great time for that.

Mon, 28 Feb 2022 16:55:56 +0100

Hans van Zijst

hans@social.woefdram.nl

I love the stories about Putin's army failing, being blocked and shot to pieces, but I wonder how much of it is actually true. It's obvious that things haven't gone the way Putin wanted or expected, but I think we (at least I) should be cautious in our optimism. I wouldn't be surprised if he conquers all of Ukraine anyway, even if it may take longer than expected of cause more death and destruction than calculated.

There's no real way back for him, he's not the kind of guy to admit he screwed up. That's not what they taught him in KGB-class. I think he'd rather take the whole world down with him in his fall than to admit he fucked up.

Mon, 28 Feb 2022 17:25:59 +0100

isaackuo@diaspora.glasswings.com

@Hans van Zijst I also have the same gut instint - to wonder how much is actually true. It's so tempting to believe what one wishes to hear.

But the thing I keep coming back to is ... Kyiv is still standing. So is every other major city ... including Mariupol, which is between rebel territory and Crimea.

That just can't be consistent with Putin's army being in good shape.

Mon, 28 Feb 2022 17:34:51 +0100

andreas_geisler@diaspora.glasswings.com

Trust but verify.

Mon, 28 Feb 2022 17:35:56 +0100

Hans van Zijst

hans@social.woefdram.nl

@Isaac Kuo Agree, and time isn't on his side. The longer this war lasts, the bigger the chance that his own people will rise up and oust him. That's what I'm hoping for, rather today than tomorrow.

Mon, 28 Feb 2022 17:42:54 +0100

Hans van Zijst

hans@social.woefdram.nl

@Andreas Geisler

Trust but verify.

Trusting is dangerous, @Isaac Kuo already said it's tempting to believe what you want to be true. Verifying is next to impossible, even if you follow several major news outlets from all over the world.

I have to accept that I can't tell what's true and what's not (or what's half true): only those things that are confirmed by both Russia and the rest of the world can be accepted as "the truth"...

Mon, 28 Feb 2022 17:53:28 +0100

Witcraft (Hubzilla)

witcraft@hub.hubzilla.de

There were enough confirmations of the US that the Kremlin did not acknowledge that I would believe Zelenskyy more than Putin (although the truth is the first victim if a war).

But I agree that it is unlikely for Ukraine to really defeat Russia, but they could hang on long enough for other events to happen. Maybe Putin cannot go reverse gear, but Russia could, once they wake up about his state of mind, or once the sanctions become more tangible.

Anyway, Putin has already made Ukraine immortal as a symbol and the subject that made a large part of the world unite and join efforts for humanity although they all had to pay something for it.

Mon, 28 Feb 2022 18:04:20 +0100

Hans van Zijst

hans@social.woefdram.nl

Yup, if this war gets bad enough for the rich kleptocrat circle around Putin, some might save their wealth by getting rid of Putin. "Tu quoque, Brute?"

@Paul Ferguson posted a nice link to a Twitter thread that point that out:

https://nitter.net/ggatehouse/status/1498270828844273669

Mon, 28 Feb 2022 18:07:43 +0100

isaackuo@diaspora.glasswings.com

@Witcraft My first gut feeling is to agree that it is unlikely for Ukraine to really defeat Russia, but ... when I think about it more carefully, it's possible.

One very plausible theory, given what we've seen so far, is that the Russian military is EXTREMELY low on fuel. The decision to send in so few forces and to inadequately pound the Ukrainians from the air makes sense if there's just not enough fuel to go around. The sanctions will make it very difficult for the Russians to improve their fuel situation.

So, let's imagine the Russian forces basically run out of fuel completely in, say, a couple weeks. What happens then?

The Ukrainian forces have fuel and other supplies pouring in. This includes fuel for aircraft and drones, as well as more of these Turkish made drones that they've been doing well with.

In those circumstances, the Ukrainian forces could do more than just slow down the Russians (who are, at this point, reduced to walking around on foot ... starving). They could seriously advance and push back the Russian forces. They could even enter Crimea.

Mon, 28 Feb 2022 19:28:56 +0100

andreas_geisler@diaspora.glasswings.com

"Trust but verify" is a slogan that Reagan supposedly had a speech coach teach him in Russian.

The gist of it is to not believe anything that hasn't been verified by one's own spy planes.

Mon, 28 Feb 2022 19:32:07 +0100

andreas_geisler@diaspora.glasswings.com

@Isaac Kuo Ukraine being lured into attacking Crimea is one of those Soviet-era stratagems we should be aware of. It would be extremely dangerous, and could galvanize Russian support for the war, and also flip the "home team advantage" of defensive warfare on its head.

OTOH, taking a large number of Russian troops captive and then demand the Crimea in negotiations is a different kettle of fish.

Mon, 28 Feb 2022 23:07:47 +0100

Hans van Zijst

hans@social.woefdram.nl

Here we go: #Navalny movement calls for disobedience.

Breakingviews - Navalny's supporters call for civil disobedience against Ukraine war

The movement of jailed Russian opposition leader Alexei Navalny called on Monday for a campaign of civil disobedience to protest against Russia's invasion of Ukraine.

#Ukraine

Tue, 01 Mar 2022 13:53:55 +0100

Witcraft (Hubzilla)

witcraft@hub.hubzilla.de

@Isaac Ji Kuo
Yeah, I hope this, too, but Russia has fossils, and given enough time, people and material enough to to throw at them, even if ineffectively and costly - but reason has been out of the game here, for long. The convoy approaching Zelenskyy is worrying me. I wish them all well, they have creative, cooperative ideas to invite Russians to butcher their "people of brothers". But it would be good if somebody in Russia would be putting the switch back from "seek and destroy" to "where will out place be, in the world, and in or own people"?

Tue, 01 Mar 2022 14:45:53 +0100

isaackuo@diaspora.glasswings.com

Yes, the mere fact that they can deploy this massive convoy, without it running out of fuel, seems to rule out that admittedly wishful possibility.

Even if the initial phase of the was was disastrously poorly planned and executed, it's entirely possible for Russia to get their act together and make the second push as powerful and unstoppable as we all feared the first push would be.

Fri, 25 Feb 2022 16:46:34 +0100

Hans van Zijst

hans@social.woefdram.nl

Jason Robinson 🐍🍻 wrote the following post Thu, 24 Feb 2022 23:12:43 +0100

Huge #respect to the #Russians going out to protest against the insanity that is #Putin at the threat of detainment ❤

#ukraine

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Fri, 25 Feb 2022 17:23:19 +0100

Witcraft (Hubzilla)

witcraft@hub.hubzilla.de

Huge #respect to the #Russians going out to protest against the insanity that is #Putin at the threat of detainment ❤

Totally! Social courage in a country oppressing opposing opinions so hard!

I hope Putin actually miscalculated, attacking Ukrania and, at the same time, thousands of his own people. I only can hope that this spirals off to finally cost him all backup in his own nation...

I am not sure if all of this is really meticulously planned by Putin - His speech sounded in parts (genocide, eradication, and denazification) as if he had actually lost literal sanity...

Fri, 25 Feb 2022 17:26:51 +0100

Hans van Zijst

hans@social.woefdram.nl

Sounds like it, indeed. I hope he finally overplayed his hand with his own people: that would be the best way to get rid of him.

Fri, 25 Feb 2022 18:24:36 +0100

Enjomineur D3

d3@diaspora.psyco.fr

Tout le Monde déteste P***!

Fri, 25 Feb 2022 18:26:04 +0100

Hans van Zijst

hans@social.woefdram.nl

Pas tout le monde, mais la plupart.

Fri, 25 Feb 2022 18:34:25 +0100

Enjomineur D3

d3@diaspora.psyco.fr

Évidemment ! C'est une façon de parler.

Thu, 24 Feb 2022 20:33:33 +0100

Hans van Zijst

hans@social.woefdram.nl

V. T. Eric Layton wrote the following post Thu, 24 Feb 2022 18:52:41 +0100

Хай живе Україно! (Long Live Ukraine!)

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Thu, 24 Feb 2022 20:45:56 +0100

Witcraft (Hubzilla)

witcraft@hub.hubzilla.de

I hope that Ukraine becomes a symbol of greatness and moral strength that Putin will have to face until he dies. They kept peaceful and deliberate even when facing the worst.

Now, who is first to nominate Selensky for the Nobel price of peace...?

Thu, 24 Feb 2022 20:56:11 +0100

Hans van Zijst

hans@social.woefdram.nl

@Witcraft Let's not get ahead of ourselves, Putin needs to be brought to justice first.

Thu, 24 Feb 2022 21:05:18 +0100

Witcraft (Hubzilla)

witcraft@hub.hubzilla.de

That will turn out difficult with all the nuclear heads in his sandbox... I hope enough Russians feel ashamed of what damage he is doing to their reputation, and what he is willing to put them through to get his will. And then turn him over to Den Haag...

Thu, 24 Feb 2022 21:42:56 +0100

Hans van Zijst

hans@social.woefdram.nl

That's a pickle, indeed. No sane person would use nukes, but we're talking about Putin here. No way of knowing what he might do.

If my sources are correct, the majority of Russians don't want this war, but saying so is a dangerous thing to do in Russia. But yes, probably the best way to end this shit would be if the Russian people would seize power and send Putin to The Hague. Or some nice camp in Siberia.

Thu, 24 Feb 2022 21:52:18 +0100

Hans van Zijst

hans@social.woefdram.nl

Yup, protesting in Putin's Russia is risky business:

Ukraine attack: Hundreds arrested in anti-war protests in Russia

Russian police arrest nearly 1,400 protesters at rallies against invasion of Ukraine.

Thu, 24 Feb 2022 22:00:53 +0100

Hans van Zijst

hans@social.woefdram.nl

Would be fine if he would end like the last czar too.

Thu, 24 Feb 2022 22:09:59 +0100

Hans van Zijst

hans@social.woefdram.nl

It could. If the people rise up and get rid of him, chances are things in Russia will change for the better.

But there are no guarantees, no.

Thu, 24 Feb 2022 22:28:27 +0100

isaackuo@diaspora.glasswings.com

The political games will, of course, continue if Putin loses power. But it at least opens the door to possible progress.

Also, it sends a message to the next Putin wannabe about the dangers of imprudent over-reach.

I'm not naive, I know there are lots of oppressive authoritarians out there. A Putin humiliation in Ukraine isn't going to magically sweep the globe clean of them. But it might at least give their neighbors some more security.

Thu, 24 Feb 2022 22:33:51 +0100

Hans

hans@federate.hopto.org

I think it isn't Putin in power but the multi billionares from the oil industry. That is why they are blocking their money. Sad thing is it does not even help. Putin will simply sell oil/gas to china

Thu, 24 Feb 2022 22:40:17 +0100

Hans van Zijst

hans@social.woefdram.nl

@Isaac Kuo

I'm not naive, I know there are lots of oppressive authoritarians out there. A Putin humiliation in Ukraine isn't going to magically sweep the globe clean of them.

True, that. There will always be assholes, but there's always a way to get rid of them too, if enough people really want to. Of course Putin has dug himself in very deep over the years, by incarcerating or killing opposition, forbidding parties and intimidating everyone who disagrees with him. But still, if the people of Russia reach the point where they say "enough is enough", he could be 6 feet under really quick.

Of course you don't know who will succeed him. Could be that his successor turns out to be a kleptocratic, powerhungry megalmaniac too... It's happened before in history. Not long after the French beheaded Louis XVI, they got Napoleon. And not long after the Russians shot the czar, they got Stalin.

Thu, 24 Feb 2022 22:47:13 +0100

Hans van Zijst

hans@social.woefdram.nl

@Hans I think Putin is very much in charge indeed, his rich buddies however can turn on him if his actions start to cost them money. If money is at stake, a backstab isn't far away. There's no honour among thieves.

Thu, 24 Feb 2022 22:59:03 +0100

Hans

hans@federate.hopto.org

It all looks like he is playing a game. There are incidents in the east since 2 years and I think Putin was hoping the capture of Crimea was going to lead to a pro-russian government. It didn't work out that way.

Now if there where no value in the earth within the borders like there wasn't in former Yougo then both Russia and the West would not even care about the area. It however holds a lot of valua so yes, they all are fighting and we can only hope there is any reason in how they deal with the people.

It makes me sad, very sad

Fri, 25 Feb 2022 09:30:03 +0100

RockyIII

rockyiii@huby.infozoo.de

Now, who is first to nominate Selensky for the Nobel price of peace...?

to understand what kind of man Mr. Selensky is have a look at:

https://www.arte.tv/de/videos/098816-001-A/krieg-in-europa-das-ukraine-drama/
https://www.arte.tv/de/videos/098816-002-A/krieg-in-europa-das-ukraine-drama/

Fri, 25 Feb 2022 11:04:39 +0100

Witcraft (Hubzilla)

witcraft@hub.hubzilla.de

@RockyIII Sorry, but honestly, I really cannot spare a full hour for watching a video just to find out what you might be referring to - Is there a summary what you man by that link?

I might gave got carried away by the injustice done here, granted. But I am honestly impressed how considerate reactions of the Ukraine was in face of that scenario that now got real (which is hard to say about Putin).

Fri, 25 Feb 2022 11:34:19 +0100

RockyIII

rockyiii@huby.infozoo.de

@Witcraft you can´t shorten everything in to few sentences... that´s the problem with the News on TV today.

Mr. Selensky and others know very well about the scenario which became now reality. He is talking about a III. World War since quid some time.

The situation is complex.

Selensky is calling now all man to defend the Ukraine with arms... but all which will die now will lose there life in a battle that can´t be won like that, we all know.

The regime of Russia has to be vanquished in different ways...now the whole world sees that there is really a need to do so. That is the new insight.

Fri, 25 Feb 2022 12:23:51 +0100

Witcraft (Hubzilla)

witcraft@hub.hubzilla.de

OK, thanks.

Yes, not everything should be shortened. OTOH, I have too little spare time to watch long videos without understanding and prioritizing relevance. So I am used to filter content based on its abstract (or the absence thereof).

Thu, 24 Feb 2022 18:14:35 +0100

Hans van Zijst

hans@social.woefdram.nl

Now all efforts should focus on finding a way to build a united Europe, with a democratic, post-Putinist Russia as an integral part.

Amen to that!

Al Jazeera English wrote the following post Thu, 24 Feb 2022 17:43:03 +0100

**Is Putin’s gamble on Ukraine rational?**

"The invasion can bring the downfall of Putin's regime - but it can also give him exactly what he wants."

https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2022/2/24/is-putins-gamble-on-ukraine-rational

#news #bot

Thu, 24 Feb 2022 18:32:03 +0100

Hans van Zijst

hans@social.woefdram.nl

I hope it will be his undoing. If the sources I read are correct, the majority of Russians don't want this war. If only they would rise up and kick Putin out of the Kremlin...